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Old 06-13-2016, 11:05 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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Well, that's easy. "One who looks and thinks exactly like me," I'm sure.

Really kind of disgusting how some people who wouldn't **** on a gay person if they were on fire are using the victims as pawns against the shooter's religion. If the shooter were a Christian nutjob instead of a Muslim nutjob they would be all, "But not all Christians are like that!" and "He was obviously mentally ill." or "It's punishment from God because gays are an abomination!" But since the shooter is a Muslim nutjob it's, "Let's blame all Muslims because they're all terrorists!"
Truly predictable, yet disturbing.

You can sense how some of them are giddy at the "liberal conundrum", since it was a radicalized Muslim terrorist (a group that liberals apparently want to infiltrate this country) murdering homosexuals (a group that is apparently liberals' favorite protected class).

It's really sick.
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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LOL, I agree that a president doesn't make laws (did anyone tell Obama that?) and he can push his agenda and negotiate. No one is ever elected dictator (do liberals understand that?).... and we'll just call you names if you don't like Trumps policies LOL. joking aside,

I'd rather go with Trump instead of more of the same crony capitalist elitist who thinks she's above the law, who thought LOL that she was going to be crowned. The same low level jobs, crappy economy and do something about that nastiness Obamacare... it's unaffordable. I'd rather a leader who looks crazy than some fresh faced flower child who is a wimp who thinks not saying words will make it go away OR is AFRAID to say the words (soon, not soon enough) and you think I'm going to vote for mr wimp 2.0, the arrogant, self serving shrill?


HOPE & CHANGE
I don't see that much difference between Hillary and Trump except, Donald will always find some reason to blame someone else for his problems. Hillary will look for solutions. Maybe not good ones to you, but as with Hope and Change it is a attempt to move forward. Donald will take us backwards, maybe to the point of no return.

Remember when his casinos were loosing to the Indian casinos and he spoke at a Congressional Subcommittee.

He tried to tie them to the mafia, saying it’s obvious that organized crime is rampant on the Indian reservations and then he said that they didn't look like Indians to him. (The FBI found no such connection to organized crime)

He is a self-serving shrill. He is not in this for the people of this country, he is in it for himself.
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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As an agnostic, I don't really subscribe to any man-made religions. I personally believe that most of them are bogus.

Islam is no different than Christianity, as Christianity calls for much of the same intolerance and bigotry that Islam calls for. The difference is that societies that predominantly practice Christianity (the Western civilizations) are evolved and modernized. As a result, a lot of the bigoted, violent viewpoints that used to be prevalent in Christian societies have been pushed out (but those backwards concepts/laws still exist today, and they were enforced once upon a time). Islam is more prevalent in under-developed societies in Africa and in the Middle East. Therefore, the societies that mostly practice Islam have not evolved to the point where some of these "old school ways of doing things" have been pushed out.

The more uneducated and underdeveloped you are as an individual and society, the more likely you're going to latch on to the more radical backwards ideas that are available. Mental health is also an important factor in a lot of these cases. Jared Loughner, Adam Lanza, Robert Dear, James Holmes...all of these people who perpetrated mass shootings had a history of mental illness.

It has nothing to do with being PC. It has everything to do with better understanding civilizations and how they work.
In other words, Islam attracts uneducated, ignorant (I don't mean stupid, but those who lack knowledge) and angry people. The powers that be in these backwards country strive to keep the masses this way in order to suit their agenda.
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:26 AM
 
Location: College Hill
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I don't see that much difference between Hillary and Trump except, Donald will always find some reason to blame someone else for his problems. Hillary will look for solutions. Maybe not good ones to you, but as with Hope and Change it is a attempt to move forward. Donald will take us backwards, maybe to the point of no return.
Well you just mentioned a YUGE chunk of difference between Clinton and Trump: Hillary/Democrats want to fix things, Trump/Republicans want to break things. Trump simply cannot get along with people, he is incapable of acting like an adult. There's nothing appealing about him in any way -- everything about him stinks of anger and hatred.

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Remember when his casinos were loosing to the Indian casinos and he spoke at a Congressional Subcommittee.

He tried to tie them to the mafia, saying it’s obvious that organized crime is rampant on the Indian reservations and then he said that they didn't look like Indians to him. (The FBI found no such connection to organized crime)

He is a self-serving shrill. He is not in this for the people of this country, he is in it for himself.
I didn't know that and it doesn't surprise me at all. The man went bankrupt four times -- 4 times! -- and screwed over so many people in his industry that no one wants to do business with him again!

There is something very strange going on in our country when a detestable, unqualified huckster like Trump has a chance, however slim, of becoming president. Yes, we suffered through both Bushes and Reagan but just because they were idiots didn't mean they were evil; it just worked out that way, I'd say.
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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No the tragedies are sad esp with me being pro gay but people die every day and rarely is there anything a president can do about it. In his case I'm not even sure he would want to considering he's demonstrated himself to be a bigot.
As I said the gun laws would probly help but I know that then we'd have to worry about bombs too.

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He is a self-serving shrill. He is not in this for the people of this country, he is in it for himself.
I'm not sure Hilary would actually be able to prevent mass shootings because she's just the president but at least she would be more on my side than he would. I am not the kind of person Trump would want to do things for.
I know she's had scandals too (I still don't get the big deal about that email thing?) but I do know that under Bill's reign this country was in a lot better shape. Maybe she will bring the good ideas that Bill had. It would depend on who she would have as Congress since the president has limited powers but no one in their right mind would be Congress with Trump in office.


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Yes, we suffered through both Bushes and Reagan but just because they were idiots didn't mean they were evil; it just worked out that way, I'd say.
I agree with you about Bush Jr. He was a terrible president. Everyone knew this but in no way was he evil. I actually quite liked him as a person just wouldn't vote for him again if it was possible (unless it was only between him and Trump)

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Old 06-13-2016, 11:38 AM
 
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Not just no, but Hell NO!! We are SO unbelievable screwed with the choice of Dumb and Dumber as the candidates in this election cycle. We are freakin' doomed!
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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In other words, Islam attracts uneducated, ignorant (I don't mean stupid, but those who lack knowledge) and angry people. The powers that be in these backwards country strive to keep the masses this way in order to suit their agenda.
I feel that same about Trump. Let's rephase your post but swap "Trump" for "Islam":

TRUMP attracts uneducated, ignorant (I don't mean stupid, but those who lack knowledge) and angry people.
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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Does the recent terrorist attack in Orlando make you want to vote for Trump more ?
Nope. Trump has ZERO experience with any of this. You dont take a guy off the street who's only watched football for a few years and throw him in as starting QB of the SuperBowl.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:05 PM
 
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I said the same about Obama.

Zero executive experience...not even as a college professor, he never had his own class with assignments to give and grades to assign.

In congress ZERO committees to run, ZERO pieces of significant legislation to point to. There were half a dozen controversial votes, but he was allowed to say he accidentally voted the wrong way.

ZERO evidence of being able to work with people of opposing view points and colleagues saying that he was hostile to those with differing views.

Obama was a joke and not ready to be president. Now we have 2 corrupt liars as our finalists for 2016.
That's all well and fine, but doesn't answer the question posed by the OP.

Does this mass murder make you want to vote for Trump? I can't imagine why it would.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:09 PM
 
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Does the recent terrorist attack in Orlando make you want to vote for Trump more ?

I am all ears if Mr. Trump has a legitimate plan to stop self-radicalized Islamists who are American citizens from attacking us.

Mick
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