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Old 02-15-2008, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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This is extremely fascinating and timely. I think the possibility is awesome for not only Obama but also the democrats.

Obama Could Take the West with the Help of Mormon Vote
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:53 PM
 
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I hope he wins but Mormons helping I seriously doubt it. Who knows I may be wrong.

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Old 02-16-2008, 05:26 AM
 
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Interesting article. While I am supporting Obama, as a Republican I am impressed with Mitt Romney's credentials and conservative positions. Of all the candidates running, he was probably the most qualified and experienced to run a government. I believe the only reason he lost the Republican nomination is because he is a Mormon. If he were a southern Baptist, he would have been the nominee hands down. This is a sad testament to the Republican party's deterioration after years of having been corrupted by the influx of southern evangelical wingnuts into the party.

The article correctly notes the fact that Mormons will vote (and have voted) for southern evangelical Republican politicians, but southern evangelicals do not return the favor when a Mormon Republican is the one running for office. This is the kind of religious bigotry that is now pervasive in the Republican party. This Republican party needs to be taught a lesson. It needs to be defeated in November.
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Old 02-16-2008, 06:18 AM
 
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i would agree with most of the previous statement, except that the democratic party has clearly gotten more left wing with these 2 candidates and that probably would not be good for america either. do we really want more government? obama refused to cut welfare, supported the DREAM act, wants illegals to have driver licenses, missed 38.8% of the votes this year, and has a liberal voting record. hillary wants mandated national health care. mccain wants more military spending, even though he refuses to close the borders. somebody's positions are going to have to change to get us headed in the right direction. i absolutely refuse to decide who to vote for in the general election until i know more about their final platforms, because they all need to be backpedaling on these issues.
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Old 02-16-2008, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Why would they vote for a man they would not allow in their church?
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Old 02-16-2008, 08:45 AM
 
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Kev, I know black Mormons. You have about the same level of familiarity with Mormonism as Huckabee.
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Old 02-16-2008, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Kev, I know black Mormons. You have about the same level of familiarity with Mormonism as Huckabee.
My understanding is that blacks are banned from the Mormon church unless they have changed something. But when the FBI arrested the Mormon leader Jim Jeffords I heard them say it was a black FBI agent that arrested him and how ironic it was that the agent would not be allowed into Jefford's church.
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Old 02-16-2008, 08:58 AM
 
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Kev, I got a Mormon church across the street from my house. Black folks were always allowed to be Mormons but could not be married in the temple or be part of church leadership until 1978. You want me to tell you when the Jesuits had their first black seminarian? They also had a rule against black applicants.

And, if you get technical, Jeffords was not a member of the Church of Latter Day Saints.
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Old 02-16-2008, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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African Americans could not be priests or participate in temple rites necessary for the highest degree of salvation until the discrimation was struck down in 1978. The church currently opposes any form of discrimination or racism except against women who are not allowed to be priests.
Blacks and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 02-16-2008, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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My understanding is that blacks are banned from the Mormon church unless they have changed something. But when the FBI arrested the Mormon leader Jim Jeffords I heard them say it was a black FBI agent that arrested him and how ironic it was that the agent would not be allowed into Jefford's church.
This is highly misinformed and totally incorrect. First of all, that person is not "the" Mormon Leader, but the leader of a small splinter group that is not part of the official Mormon Church.
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