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View Poll Results: brexit, works in favor of Trump or Clinton on election day?
Clinton 10 9.90%
Trump 64 63.37%
doesn't make a difference 25 24.75%
not sure 2 1.98%
Voters: 101. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-24-2016, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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LOL Dream on.

Where the polls wrong in the primaries? Hardly. Your candidate needs a miracle to turn things around. His problem is that many people think he is an idiot who is not fit for president. Many people already made up their mind and will not vote for him under any circumstances.

Trump never ceases to amaze me. Instead of acting presidential all he does is brag about his golf courses. Unlike other presidents Trump cannot even answer a basic question.
Yes, very wrong in the primaries. Who predicted trump would stick around so far in the primaries let alone win? And who in the world thought an old socialist guy would be giving someone who was such a sure thing/would close the win fast such trouble in the primary? No polling I saw. They largely got it all very wrong.

And I wouldn't be so sure of yourself. Well, you can if you want, in June with the election season not even having started yet. The "official" start is after labor day. Plus we are in the "bump" phase where any candidate gets a boost after securing/thinking they secure the nomination.

Does Brexit mean Donald Trump will win U.S. election? - CNNPolitics.com

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"But events in Europe must trigger at least some concern among Democrats.

Pollsters in the UK underestimated the fury of grassroots voters outside metropolitan areas in a way that could be mirrored in the United States, where Clinton now enjoys a lead in national surveys."
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Most interesting to me is that the country with the most unfavorable votes is the country that is receiving the most benefits and bleeding the rest dry...
That one also left me puzzled. Perhaps they they feel if they are "independent" they'll get more $? They feel being in that system is causing the problem?

When someone is in denial, it's hard to make sense of what they are looking for/want.
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Old 06-24-2016, 07:41 PM
 
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Here are a couple of articles about what Brexit means to pocketbooks:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/what-brexit-mean-shopping-petrol-8277931#rlabs=4%20rt$sitewide%20p$10

3 Brexit promises campaigners had wriggled out of before breakfast on EU referendum results day - Mirror Online

The second article talks about things that were promised that won't happen because they just can't happen (like a lot of Trump's promises.)
I can't figure out how to make that top link clickable.

At any rate, food prices are going to go up in the UK because most of the food is imported from the EU. Healthcare won't be getting any extra money (that was one of the promises, which was broken immediately). In fact, healthcare will be getting less money. On top of all that, the British pound got weaker. Gas prices will go up because gas (oil) is traded in US dollars and the dollar is now stronger. Lots of interesting things at that link.
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Old 06-24-2016, 07:42 PM
 
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brexit could never happen here. one the us is 60-40 white/minority compared to at least 85-15, maybe 90-10 white/minority in uk.
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Old 06-24-2016, 07:45 PM
 
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Yes, very wrong in the primaries. Who predicted trump would stick around so far in the primaries let alone win?

And I wouldn't be so sure of yourself. Well, you can if you want, in June with the election season not even having started yet. The "official" start is after labor day.

Does Brexit mean Donald Trump will win U.S. election? - CNNPolitics.com



That one also left me puzzled. Perhaps they are looking for even more money?
The polls were wrong about Trump during the primaries? Please. He was at the top of the polls since July 6, 2015 and never fell for one day.

2016 National Republican Primary - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

Information doesn't get erased from the web just because you wish it did.

You people are running out of excuses. First Trump had a year to improve his numbers, then he had 10 months, then 8 months, then Trumpettes told us that some elections were not defined until May. May came and went. Then Trumpettes told us the Orlando mass shooting would increase Trump's popularity. It never did. Now elections are defined after labor day? Please when are you going to realize that Trump has never been at the top of the polls unlike other candidates in previous elections. Trump has an image problem and he is polling in the 30's!!!

You people are a little delusional. I wonder when are you all gonna realize he has very little chances of winning.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:01 PM
 
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Apparently Trump benefits the most - after all, that was the only response he managed to come up with, that because the pound is going to crash, it will be cheaper for people to visit his golf resort.

Oh, you meant as President, not in a personal financial way? Yeah, that won't be Trump because this just highlights his utter lack of comprehension of world events.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:24 PM
 
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Benefits Hillary. Trump said the UK leaving wasn't a big deal and he didn't need to meet with his foreign policy advisors. What an absolute moron with no clue. It's only one of the biggest foreign policy events to transpire since WWII
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:28 PM
 
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Once people see how bad Brexit is going to be for the UK, they'll think twice about voting for Trump. Hillary will benefit.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:35 PM
 
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The polls were wrong about Trump during the primaries? Please. He was at the top of the polls since July 6, 2015 and never fell for one day.

2016 National Republican Primary - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

Information doesn't get erased from the web just because you wish it did.

You people are running out of excuses. First Trump had a year to improve his numbers, then he had 10 months, then 8 months, then Trumpettes told us that some elections were not defined until May. May came and went. Then Trumpettes told us the Orlando mass shooting would increase Trump's popularity. It never did. Now elections are defined after labor day? Please when are you going to realize that Trump has never been at the top of the polls unlike other candidates in previous elections. Trump has an image problem and he is polling in the 30's!!!

You people are a little delusional. I wonder when are you all gonna realize he has very little chances of winning.
You were a sharp individual who picked trump to win right from the beginning while many on these forums were saying "no way!" he's going to win, including myself btw. And most polling indeed didn't have him winning until towards the end, let alone even getting the right number of delegates....I stand by that. You and others go on and on how bad he is so how would you/others have predicted a win?

In any case, the past is the past and for the future.....

You are apparently a team Dem player as it's obvious in your disgust of trump. Or at the very least you have the nerve to admit you'd vote for hil. Personally, I'm honest and will answer I have no idea what kind of president trump would be if he becomes president. I'm not arrogant like many who feel the president calls everything as that's done by this staff/cabinet for the most part. But I do know this......establishment types, both team D and R, to me are the clowns who have our country in the mess it's in. To want to elect ANY of them in office to me is the utmost in stupidity and non-thinking type decision making I can think of. It's true insanity, you know, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Our country politically is so screwed up I'd be willing to elect anything/anyone over the current cast of establishment clowns. People like yourself abound here and apparently like the direction of our country or in my view are naive to think "it's different this time" with this establishment piece of work we have in hil. And in my view and the view of many one of the worse examples of corruption in what an establishment person is all about. And to me you/others that think in this mold is why our country is so screwed up politically as you are the enabling entities behind it all. I and many others are willing to try something that MIGHT be better for our nation. If it isn't/it turns out the same, at least we tried something a bit different.

As for me if it were between 2 establishment people? I'd vote a rock in first before either of them. You'd pick hil or the other establishment clown. There's where we differ I believe.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:37 PM
 
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I'm hearing some people are having second thoughts about their vote to exit the EU.

They wanted to do it to "show" the government something, but they never really thought it would happen. Now that it happened, they don't really want it.

Many older people voted for this, not realizing that they were going to personally lose lots of money doing this.



false propaganda....why would over 17 million people who voted to leave the E.U. have 2nd thoughts about their vote 24 hours later?

this didn't happen over night.......British people are fed up with the E.U. and their corruption and the centralized banks in Brussels calling the shots about topics that should be decided and control by the British people.

This is NOT about money in the short term, its about control and keeping the British culture and a rejection to the open border madness.


if Americans had your way of thinking , we would NEVER had our independence if they thought it "carefully" the cost in the short term.......in the long run this will benefit the British people.....people always benefit when control is at the local level than some foreign club in another country that are not even British calling the shots.


When you are in a club of 28 members and you are picking up the tab for the majority of the members and get little in return and don't have a lot of say, even you would have the brains to leave.
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Old 06-24-2016, 09:10 PM
 
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I'm hearing some people are having second thoughts about their vote to exit the EU.

They wanted to do it to "show" the government something, but they never really thought it would happen. Now that it happened, they don't really want it.

Many older people voted for this, not realizing that they were going to personally lose lots of money doing this.
Hearing " some people"? I heard that Harry Reid was assaulted by his brother which cause eye damage.

This ploy to indicate voters remorse is the news' way of insulting British voters. The British voters were " too stupid" to think thru their votes. Come on. Give the British credit for analyzing the situation and voting intelligently.

It's even more insulting to say (infer) that old people again are too stupid and vote on emotion?!? Give the British voters the respect they deserve. They endured more propaganda and advertising for months and were threatened with false motivations.

In the past, we used to analyze why the other side won thru looking at the issues that were the most relevant on a voting cycle. Now it's assume the other side that won is morons.
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