More Deception and Coverup of HRC's Time at State (represent, president, American)

[mohawkx]

Originally Posted by CTDex

H. holds the distinction for setting a record on the number of foreign trips. She didn't have to travel to so many countries when there was no purpose to it.

Traveling around and given "strong woman" speeches is hardly crucial to U.S. policy

No SOS just jumps on a plane and heads to parts unknown on their own. SOS are sent to distant lands by the Chief Executive exclusively to implement and reaffirm United States Foreign policy. All visits an American SOS makes to a foreign land is official, planned and ordered by congress or the President. Hillary Clinton never just shows up unannounced at the airport, in say Jordan or Russia, to give a speech on woman's rights at some 3rd rate hotel ballroom.

Where do you get these ideas?

[Mouser]

"What difference does it make"

Benghazi is calling

[Ringo1]

Originally Posted by CTDex

She also came to his wedding when he made a generous donation to her bank account.



Hilary's only upset because he's running against her instead of continuing the donations.

Originally Posted by CTDex

Trump is an "outsider" from the perspective that he is not a career politician and did not spend his life involved in DC politics- he is a businessman and did what he had to to accomplish his goals at the time.

He could easily have followed a far more tame platform but chose to address illegal immigrations, terrorism and put Americans first so I support him.


Hilary takes money from anyone.

So doesn't Trump. They just won't give it to him.

[mohawkx]

Originally Posted by Mouser

"What difference does it make"

Benghazi is calling

"We'll be with you and appreciate your call, there are 26 calls ahead of you. If you wish you can contact us. Here is a link to an ongoing investigation that has been in session, forever.
https://issa.house.gov/contact/contact-me/


18 July 1924 Tehran, Sublime State of Persia An angry mob of led by members of the Muslim clergy and including many members of the Iranian Army beat Robert W. Imbrie, United States Consul in Tehran, to death. The mob blamed America for poisoning a well.[1] mob 1
27 January 1958 Ankara, Turkey Bombing in embassy compound[2] none
January 31, 1968 Saigon, Vietnam As part of the Tet Offensive, Viet Cong commandos forced their way onto the US Embassy grounds and surrounded the building until US reinforcements arrived. armed assault 5 US security
20 attackers
26 September 1971 Phnom Penh, Cambodia Attack on embassy softball game[3] 1
1972 Manila, Philippines Attack by communist group, Marine guard wounded[3] none
19 August 1974 Nicosia, Cyprus Riot outside Embassy; Ambassador and assistant shot by sniper 2
4 August 1975 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Japanese Red Army gunmen raid Embassy none
1979 Tehran, Iran Iran hostage crisis
21 November 1979 Islamabad, Pakistan Islamist riots destroy Embassy (see 1979 U.S. Embassy Burning in Islamabad) 2
2 December 1979 Tripoli, Libya Islamist riots destroy Embassy (see 1979 U.S. Embassy Burning in Libya) none
18 April 1983 Beirut, Lebanon Islamic Jihad car bomb destroys Embassy (see April 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing) 63 (of which 17 were Americans)
12 December 1983 Kuwait City, Kuwait al-Dawa truck bomb outside Embassy 6
20 September 1984 Beirut, Lebanon Hezbollah car bomb outside embassy (see 1984 United States embassy annex bombing) 24
November 1984 Bogota, Colombia Car bomb outside Embassy planted by drug cartel 1
February 1986 Lisbon, Portugal Popular Forces of 25 April car bomb outside Embassy none
14 May 1986 Jakarta, Indonesia Japanese Red Army mortar barrage none
9 June 1987 Rome, Italy Japanese Red Army mortar barrage none
17 September 1989 Bogota, Colombia RPG fired on Embassy by unknown assailant none
27 July 1993 Lima, Peru Car bomb outside Embassy planted by Shining Path bombing none
13 September 1995 Moscow, Russia RPG fired on Embassy by unknown assailant bombing none
21 June 1998 Beirut, Lebanon RPGs fired at Embassy by Hezbollah an Iran-supported religious organization bombing none
7 August 1998 Nairobi, Kenya al-Qaeda simultaneously attacked both Embassies with truck bombs (more details) bombing 213, including 10 US personnel and 2 US security
Dar es Salaam, Tanzania 11
22 January 2002 Calcutta, India Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami gunmen attacked American cultural centre, which included public affairs office of nearby US Consulate (more details) armed assault 5 Indian security
14 June 2002 Karachi, Pakistan al-Qaeda truck bomb detonated outside Consulate (more details) bombing 12 Pakistani civilians
12 October 2002 Denpasar, Indonesia Consular Office bombed by Jemaah Islamiyah as part of the Bali bombings bombing none
28 February 2003 Karachi, Pakistan Unknown gunmen attack US Consulate (more details) armed assault 2 Pakistani security
30 June 2004 Tashkent, Uzbekistan Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan bombs US Embassy bombing none
6 December 2004 Jeddah, Saudi Arabia al-Qaeda gunmen raid diplomatic compound[4] armed assault 5 Saudi personnel
4 attackers
2 March 2006 Karachi, Pakistan Car bomb explodes outside Consulate, killing a US diplomat (more details) bombing 1 US personnel
1 Pakistani personnel
1 Pakistani security
1 attacker
12 September 2006 Damascus, Syria Gunmen raid US Embassy armed assault 1 Syrian security
3 attackers
12 January 2007 Athens, Greece RPG Fired at Embassy by Revolutionary Struggle bombing none
18 March 2008 Sana'a, Yemen Mortar rounds missed US Embassy, hitting nearby school bombing 2 Yemeni civilians
9 July 2008 Istanbul, Turkey Armed attack against Consulate (more details) armed assault 3 Turkish security
3 attackers
17 September 2008 Sana'a, Yemen A coordinated attack resulted in a 20-minute battle with security (more details) armed assault 6 Yemeni security
5 Yemeni civilians
1 US civilian
6 attackers
5 April 2010 Peshawar, Pakistan An attack near the U.S. Consulate in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills two consulate security guards and at least six others (more details) armed assault 2 Pakistani personnel
1 Pakistani security
1 Pakistani civilian
4 attackers
28 October 2011 Sarajevo, Bosnia & Herzegovina A gunman, a Wahhabi Islamist, fired on the embassy on 28 October 2011, resulting in one local policeman guarding the embassy being wounded in the arm by the gunman, while the shooter was wounded by a police sniper. armed assault none
11 September 2012 Cairo, Egypt Protestors scaled the walls of the Consulate and replaced the US flag with an Islamist banner before being driven back by Egyptian security (more details) mob none
Benghazi, Libya A group of terrorists storm the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya -- killing the U.S. Ambassador, one staff member, and two security contractors (more details) armed assault 4 US personnel
14 September 2012 Sana'a, Yemen Protestors stormed the US Embassy and set fire to several vehicles before being driven back by Yemeni security (more details) mob 5 attackers
Tunis, Tunisia Tunisian police fought back protestors who attacked the US Embassy in Tunis (more details) mob 2 attackers
1 February 2013 Ankara, Turkey A suicide bomber attacked the US Embassy in the Turkish capital, Ankara, on Friday, detonating himself inside a security entrance to the compound (more details) bombing 1 Turkish security
1 attacker
13 September 2013 Herat, Afghanistan A group of 7 Taliban militants attacked the US Consulate in Herat, Afghanistan using truck bombs, assault rifles, and rocket-propelled grenades, killing 2 Afghan security guards and wounding 20 others (more details) armed assault 2 Afghan security
28 September 2015 Tashkent, Uzbekistan Unidentified man threw two molotov cocktails or similar improvised explosives over the wall of the US Embassy Tashkent18 July 1924 Tehran, Sublime State of Persia An angry mob of led by members of the Muslim clergy and including many members of the Iranian Army beat Robert W. Imbrie, United States Consul in Tehran, to death. The mob blamed America for poisoning a well.[1] mob 1
27 January 1958 Ankara, Turkey Bombing in embassy compound[2] none
January 31, 1968 Saigon, Vietnam As part of the Tet Offensive, Viet Cong commandos forced their way onto the US Embassy grounds and surrounded the building until US reinforcements arrived. armed assault 5 US security
20 attackers
26 September 1971 Phnom Penh, Cambodia Attack on embassy softball game[3] 1
1972 Manila, Philippines Attack by communist group, Marine guard wounded[3] none
19 August 1974 Nicosia, Cyprus Riot outside Embassy; Ambassador and assistant shot by sniper 2
4 August 1975 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Japanese Red Army gunmen raid Embassy none
1979 Tehran, Iran Iran hostage crisis
21 November 1979 Islamabad, Pakistan Islamist riots destroy Embassy (see 1979 U.S. Embassy Burning in Islamabad) 2
2 December 1979 Tripoli, Libya Islamist riots destroy Embassy (see 1979 U.S. Embassy Burning in Libya) none
18 April 1983 Beirut, Lebanon Islamic Jihad car bomb destroys Embassy (see April 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing) 63 (of which 17 were Americans)
12 December 1983 Kuwait City, Kuwait al-Dawa truck bomb outside Embassy 6
20 September 1984 Beirut, Lebanon Hezbollah car bomb outside embassy (see 1984 United States embassy annex bombing) 24
November 1984 Bogota, Colombia Car bomb outside Embassy planted by drug cartel 1
February 1986 Lisbon, Portugal Popular Forces of 25 April car bomb outside Embassy none
14 May 1986 Jakarta, Indonesia Japanese Red Army mortar barrage none
9 June 1987 Rome, Italy Japanese Red Army mortar barrage none
17 September 1989 Bogota, Colombia RPG fired on Embassy by unknown assailant none
27 July 1993 Lima, Peru Car bomb outside Embassy planted by Shining Path bombing none
13 September 1995 Moscow, Russia RPG fired on Embassy by unknown assailant bombing none
21 June 1998 Beirut, Lebanon RPGs fired at Embassy by Hezbollah an Iran-supported religious organization bombing none
7 August 1998 Nairobi, Kenya al-Qaeda simultaneously attacked both Embassies with truck bombs (more details) bombing 213, including 10 US personnel and 2 US security
Dar es Salaam, Tanzania 11
22 January 2002 Calcutta, India Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami gunmen attacked American cultural centre, which included public affairs office of nearby US Consulate (more details) armed assault 5 Indian security
14 June 2002 Karachi, Pakistan al-Qaeda truck bomb detonated outside Consulate (more details) bombing 12 Pakistani civilians
12 October 2002 Denpasar, Indonesia Consular Office bombed by Jemaah Islamiyah as part of the Bali bombings bombing none
28 February 2003 Karachi, Pakistan Unknown gunmen attack US Consulate (more details) armed assault 2 Pakistani security
30 June 2004 Tashkent, Uzbekistan Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan bombs US Embassy bombing none
6 December 2004 Jeddah, Saudi Arabia al-Qaeda gunmen raid diplomatic compound[4] armed assault 5 Saudi personnel
4 attackers
2 March 2006 Karachi, Pakistan Car bomb explodes outside Consulate, killing a US diplomat (more details) bombing 1 US personnel
1 Pakistani personnel
1 Pakistani security
1 attacker
12 September 2006 Damascus, Syria Gunmen raid US Embassy armed assault 1 Syrian security
3 attackers
12 January 2007 Athens, Greece RPG Fired at Embassy by Revolutionary Struggle bombing none
18 March 2008 Sana'a, Yemen Mortar rounds missed US Embassy, hitting nearby school bombing 2 Yemeni civilians
9 July 2008 Istanbul, Turkey Armed attack against Consulate (more details) armed assault 3 Turkish security
3 attackers
17 September 2008 Sana'a, Yemen A coordinated attack resulted in a 20-minute battle with security (more details) armed assault 6 Yemeni security
5 Yemeni civilians
1 US civilian
6 attackers
5 April 2010 Peshawar, Pakistan An attack near the U.S. Consulate in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills two consulate security guards and at least six others (more details) armed assault 2 Pakistani personnel
1 Pakistani security
1 Pakistani civilian
4 attackers
28 October 2011 Sarajevo, Bosnia & Herzegovina A gunman, a Wahhabi Islamist, fired on the embassy on 28 October 2011, resulting in one local policeman guarding the embassy being wounded in the arm by the gunman, while the shooter was wounded by a police sniper. armed assault none
11 September 2012 Cairo, Egypt Protestors scaled the walls of the Consulate and replaced the US flag with an Islamist banner before being driven back by Egyptian security (more details) mob none
Benghazi, Libya A group of terrorists storm the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya -- killing the U.S. Ambassador, one staff member, and two security contractors (more details) armed assault 4 US personnel
14 September 2012 Sana'a, Yemen Protestors stormed the US Embassy and set fire to several vehicles before being driven back by Yemeni security (more details) mob 5 attackers
Tunis, Tunisia Tunisian police fought back protestors who attacked the US Embassy in Tunis (more details) mob 2 attackers
1 February 2013 Ankara, Turkey A suicide bomber attacked the US Embassy in the Turkish capital, Ankara, on Friday, detonating himself inside a security entrance to the compound (more details) bombing 1 Turkish security
1 attacker
13 September 2013 Herat, Afghanistan A group of 7 Taliban militants attacked the US Consulate in Herat, Afghanistan using truck bombs, assault rifles, and rocket-propelled grenades, killing 2 Afghan security guards and wounding 20 others (more details) armed assault 2 Afghan security
28 September 2015 Tashkent, Uzbekistan Unidentified man threw two molotov cocktails or similar improvised explosives over the wall of the US Embassy Tashkent

[CTDex]

Originally Posted by Marlow

Starting with the headline that Hillary Clinton is the WORST Secretary of State, followed by a Wikipedia article describing the job of Secretary of State, is not exactly a convincing argument of anything. What else ya got?

I don't have anything to support her accomplishments- that's the point I'm making. What great foreign policy is she responsible for?

[CTDex]

Originally Posted by mohawkx

No SOS just jumps on a plane and heads to parts unknown on their own. SOS are sent to distant lands by the Chief Executive exclusively to implement and reaffirm United States Foreign policy. All visits an American SOS makes to a foreign land is official, planned and ordered by congress or the President. Hillary Clinton never just shows up unannounced at the airport, in say Jordan or Russia, to give a speech on woman's rights at some 3rd rate hotel ballroom.

Where do you get these ideas?

I didn't state that she showed up unannounced or did everything at her own will.


The point I made was what made her so great?, her supporters continue to trumpet her achievements, but there's nothing there.

[mohawkx]

Originally Posted by CTDex

I don't have anything to support her accomplishments- that's the point I'm making. What great foreign policy is she responsible for?

One more time. As SOS, she doesn't set foreign policy, great or otherwise. Congress and the President do that.
A better way to phrase your question would be, "What great foreign policy is Congress and the President responsible for?"

[Enigma777]

Originally Posted by beb0p

Before:

Trump: Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman, I really like her and her husband both a lot. I think she really works hard. And I think, again, she’s given an agenda, it is not all of her, but I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job. I like her.

Now:

Trump: She is a world-class liar!!

Geez, I wonder what changed?!
.

Lol. Guess it was just an enthusiastic 'suggestion.'

[Marlow]

Originally Posted by CTDex

I don't have anything to support her accomplishments- that's the point I'm making. What great foreign policy is she responsible for?

No--sorry. You started the thread saying she's the worst SoS ever, but point to nothing to support your declaration. If you're going to say she's the worst, you'll have to compare her to other SoS's and discuss the challenges they faced and how they handled them. How does she compare to Condaleeza Rice? Madeleine Albright? Colin Powell? Cyrus Vance? At the very least, you need to describe what you think she should or should not have done as SoS.

Don't fret, because I know you can't or won't do it and don't really expect you to. But by the same token, you shouldn't expect posts like these to carry any weight or influence. It's the same empty blustering you hear from Agent Orange and no one pays any attention to it.

P.S. For my money, Henry Kissinger is not only the worst SoS ever, but also a war criminal. But that's a discussion for another time.

[CTDex]

Originally Posted by mohawkx

One more time. As SOS, she doesn't set foreign policy, great or otherwise. Congress and the President do that.
A better way to phrase your question would be, "What great foreign policy is Congress and the President responsible for?"

I note your point that she takes what comes during her tenure.


But this has been a key point that her campaign has been making in how great she is and how "skilled" she is.


The Congress and President are another off-topic conversation.