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Old 07-01-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I am sorry you are mistaken. I worked in Hialeah with Columbians, , Venezuela. to name a few, are educated come this country legally or under a program.


Most Latin's I know coming from South Florida are very protective of their earned citizenship and have a dim view of those that cheat the system. In many cases they have stood in line for a visa in a US Embassy, Pay a Lawyers to go thru the legal jungle and has satisfied the US Naturalization Process and have not committed a serious crime.


Problem come from Central America, like Mexico, Guatemala and Honduras (for example). With un skilled workers that force themselves on to the US.


Those who violate their Visa and Pass Port is a issue.


To Say Latinos disapprove of Trump is not accurate.


When do we as citizens of the USA push back on these trespassers? Our laws concerning this is more than fair and actually better than most countries.
I admit my knowledge of Florida Latino politics is most likely limited and dated. I've never actually been to Florida. Most my information on Florida politics is what I've learned and researched on line. I'd probably be best sticking to South West Latino politics which I'm more familiar on a first hand basis.
You are correct in the fact that Latino politics is as diverse as the Countries they originate from and highly regional.
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I think the old Cuban Exile made some people liberals in South Florida with their nonsense and aggressive behavior.

Sure, many of them will vote for Trump . I would say at least 75% of those who voted for Romney will vote for Trump if not more. They might not like Trump but they won't vote for a democrat and Cubans are not the type to skip any election, they love politics. I expect Cuban areas like Hialeah to be won by Trump by large margins.
True. I remember coming home to the beach from work and being held up on the Dolphin because the exiles were protesting yet another incident and, really, nobody else much cared at that point (including their kids). Just annoyed at traffic being held up. If they attempted that now, someone would probably get run over or shot. They didn't really lend themselves to sympathy with those tactics and by then the Cubans coming here were economic refugees--not political.

But there are educated activists in the younger generations and they don't like Trump much.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Somewhere
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True. I remember coming home to the beach from work and being held up on the Dolphin because the exiles were protesting yet another incident and, really, nobody else much cared at that point (including their kids). Just annoyed at traffic being held up. If they attempted that now, someone would probably get run over or shot. They didn't really lend themselves to sympathy with those tactics and by then the Cubans coming here were economic refugees--not political.

But there are educated activists in the younger generations and they don't like Trump much.
LOL they were horrible. One time they thought Fidel Castro had died so they help up traffic to celebrate his death. They also vandalized a lot of Hollywood stars of celebrities that either visited Cuba or said something that they thought was "communist talk"

The worst was the Elian Gonzalez Fiasco. They wanted to remove a child from his own father and vilified the Feds for the taking the child from his cousins. They are so stupid sometimes.

Who could forget
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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The media and liberals who constantly beat the drum about Latinos being against Trump ... always seem to overlook the difference between "legal" and "illegal."

Why should legal American citizens (Latino or otherwise) not be against the growing influx of undocumented illegals -- Does America not have a right to establish and enforce its own borders and immigration policies ... without being considered racist or lacking in compassion? (Oh well, such is the liberal mantra, particularly in an election year).
Read the polls, Hispanic advocacy groups, marches, etc. The truth is that many Hispanics of Mexican ancestry have family members here illegally and they will cut off their noses to spite their faces. They want them to be able to remain here. It is a tribal, ethnocentric, selfish mindset and our laws be damned. If you don't agree you're a racist according to them. Never mind it is they that are the racists for thinking their ethnic group is special and above our immigration laws and should be rewarded for breaking them according to them.
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Old 07-01-2016, 05:21 PM
 
Location: The Mid-Cities
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Read the polls, Hispanic advocacy groups, marches, etc. The truth is that many Hispanics of Mexican ancestry have family members here illegally and they will cut off their noses to spite their faces. They want them to be able to remain here. It is a tribal, ethnocentric, selfish mindset and our laws be damned. If you don't agree you're a racist according to them. Never mind it is they that are the racists for thinking their ethnic group is special and above our immigration laws and should be rewarded for breaking them according to them.
It's not even that Oldglory. Most Hispanics do in fact want stronger borders along with some kind of legal path of course. The reason why most Hispanics won't vote for Trump is because he has issues with Hispanics in general whether legal or 5th generation. The Judge Curiel comments is a big threat to anyone who has any trace of Latino or Mexican background. It's like questioning the judgement of a judge just because of his German or English background. If Trump does in fact harbor negative feelings against Latinos why would Latinos vote for a guy who could pass policies or do worse things to their kids, parents and other relatives even if they're 4th, 5th generation. Curiel isn't an illegal, that was totally uncalled for.
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Old 07-01-2016, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's not even that Oldglory. Most Hispanics do in fact want stronger borders along with some kind of legal path of course. The reason why most Hispanics won't vote for Trump is because he has issues with Hispanics in general whether legal or 5th generation. The Judge Curiel comments is a big threat to anyone who has any trace of Latino or Mexican background. It's like questioning the judgement of a judge just because of his German or English background. If Trump does in fact harbor negative feelings against Latinos why would Latinos vote for a guy who could pass policies or do worse things to their kids, parents and other relatives even if they're 4th, 5th generation. Curiel isn't an illegal, that was totally uncalled for.
Very well said.

The fact is that when Trump goes off on those tangents, he sounds totally and absolutely unAmerican. Those that did come legally and struggled to have the American dream are simply turned off by a rich white guy basically discarding and disrespecting their heritage. This is not the America they dreamed of or what America is supposed to stand for.

This is why the entire world is disappointed that a guy like Trump is a candidate. America is supposed to set the standard.
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Old 07-01-2016, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Very well said.

The fact is that when Trump goes off on those tangents, he sounds totally and absolutely unAmerican. Those that did come legally and struggled to have the American dream are simply turned off by a rich white guy basically discarding and disrespecting their heritage. This is not the America they dreamed of or what America is supposed to stand for.

This is why the entire world is disappointed that a guy like Trump is a candidate. America is supposed to set the standard.
The entire world? Minus the record millions who voted for him?

Once again, it wasn't that Curiel was of Mexican heritage. It was because of his close association with a group that supports and encourages amnesty, and Trump thought the judge would be biased against him due to Trump's anti-illegal stance.
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Old 07-01-2016, 06:46 PM
 
Location: The Mid-Cities
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The entire world? Minus the record millions who voted for him?

Once again, it wasn't that Curiel was of Mexican heritage. It was because of his close association with a group that supports and encourages amnesty, and Trump thought the judge would be biased against him due to Trump's anti-illegal stance.
But the Judge's background shouldn't even come into question. Why and who looks that up to begin with? Anyone that even considers this has some kind of caste system in their head where Americans with X background are more American than Americans with Y background.
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Old 07-02-2016, 07:12 AM
 
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It's not even that Oldglory. Most Hispanics do in fact want stronger borders along with some kind of legal path of course. The reason why most Hispanics won't vote for Trump is because he has issues with Hispanics in general whether legal or 5th generation. The Judge Curiel comments is a big threat to anyone who has any trace of Latino or Mexican background. It's like questioning the judgement of a judge just because of his German or English background. If Trump does in fact harbor negative feelings against Latinos why would Latinos vote for a guy who could pass policies or do worse things to their kids, parents and other relatives even if they're 4th, 5th generation. Curiel isn't an illegal, that was totally uncalled for.

That's the hitch. They are demanding amnesty for their illegal amigos. Trump does not have issues with Hispanics in general. Where are you getting that? Judge Curiel's character should be in question due to his ties to La Raza and advocating for scholarships for illegal aliens. He obviously would have a problem with Trump. I have no idea what negative feelings Trump supposedly has against law abiding Hispanics as it simply isn't true. What policies is Trump pushing that would have a negative impact on law abiding Hispanic kids, parents, families etc.? Trump never said that Curial was an illegal. Where are you getting that nonsense?
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Old 07-02-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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But the Judge's background shouldn't even come into question. Why and who looks that up to begin with? Anyone that even considers this has some kind of caste system in their head where Americans with X background are more American than Americans with Y background.

It certainly should come into question considering that he is an illegal alien sympathizer and Trump is not. If the majority of a certain group in this country thinks they are above our laws and should be rewarded for breaking them then yes they are less American in their hearts and heads than law abiding Americans.
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