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Old 07-05-2016, 10:18 PM
 
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I don't care that Republicans think she lied, regardless of the evidence...
Are you claiming that Comey lied? Either Comey lied or Hilary lied, which do you believe is the liar?

EDIT: Shabazz is demonstrating exactly what I'm saying, he apparently will support her no matter what - a question of integrity.
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Old 07-05-2016, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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If you don't vote for Trump then your voting for Hillery.
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Old 07-05-2016, 10:24 PM
 
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Are you claiming that Comey lied? Either Comey lied or Hilary lied, which do you believe is the liar?

EDIT: Shabazz is demonstrating exactly what I'm saying, he apparently will support her no matter what - a question of integrity.
He laughably claimed to be a moderate the other day.
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Old 07-05-2016, 10:25 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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I lean to the left and I do not support Hillary whatsoever. I strongly dislike her and I always have and that was before the whole email thing, that only solidified my opinion even more. Other than Hildabeast, the Democratic party has two options:

A) Bernie Sanders, who was short by ~3 million something from Clinton (15 mil vs. 12 mil something like that) and won a plethora of states, give him the nomination.
B) Nominate another Dem at the expense of seeing that Sanders does not exist (at this point Sanders is unseen by the DNC). Many have rumored that this would be Biden, who regrets not running this year.

Option A is the only one with some integrity at this point. To do option B would be suspicious since he wouldn't have gone through the process of the primaries.

If Clinton officially runs for the Dems after the convention you can count on me voting third party. I cannot in my right mind give up any integrity to someone who so blatantly acts above the law and lies constantly. I also in my mind cannot vote for Trump either. Despite what some people say, votes do matter, in large numbers, and I will do anything I can to be part of a large enough number to send a message to both of the major parties a big "F*CK YOU". There's a good chance that might happen this election.

I hope any left-leaning American who has even a slice of integrity does the same thing if Hillary is the official candidate.
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Old 07-05-2016, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Are you claiming that Comey lied? Either Comey lied or Hilary lied, which do you believe is the liar?

EDIT: Shabazz is demonstrating exactly what I'm saying, he apparently will support her no matter what - a question of integrity.
I wouldn't in certain instances. I didn't even vote for her in the primaries for my state. But I'll tell you one thing. I would never vote for a Republican for the state level or above. There's just too much at stake to do so...

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Old 07-05-2016, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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He laughably claimed to be a moderate the other day.
Believe it or not I'm actually pretty moderate on most things. There are quite a few Republican stances I agree with..

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Old 07-05-2016, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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What I can't understand is how so many Democrats will continue to support her when she directly lied to the country about matters of national security.

If you are still supporting her after this, how can you justify it?

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Do the majority of Democrats have no integrity at all?
Life is full of instances where we have no great choice. This is one of them. No, many of us are not thrilled with Hillary as the candidate, but we CANNOT ever vote for someone like The Orange One...who also lies all the time and is far more dangerous to the well-being of this country. And, many of us cannot vote for a Republican for president because of what the Republican Party has become.

So, we are stuck with selecting the better of 2 not so great choices.
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Old 07-05-2016, 10:31 PM
 
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I wouldn't vote for her no matter what. I didn't even vote for her in the primaries for my state. But I'll tell you one thing. I would never vote for a Republican for the state level or above. There's just too much at stake to do so...
I must have misinterpreted your post above. I read it as you still supporting her. I apologize for that mistake.

By no means am I saying you should vote for a Republican, I'm just stating that Democrats must push for another candidate if they want to ever be able to look themselves in the political mirror.
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Old 07-05-2016, 10:31 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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Life is full of instances where we have no great choice. This is one of them. No, many of us are not thrilled with Hillary as the candidate, but we CANNOT ever vote for someone like The Orange One...who also lies all the time and is far more dangerous to the well-being of this country. And, many of us cannot vote for a Republican for president because of what the Republican Party has become.

So, we are stuck with selecting the better of 2 not so great choices.
But it doesn't have to be that way.

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Old 07-05-2016, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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So taxpayers have spent how much on this Republican witch hunt which found………squadoosh?

Here's the thing: Republican voters are being told by the RNC and FAUX News they need to be upset about some emails sent from an unsecured server, and you would think this woman just made a secret pact with ISIS.

Not a word from any wingnuts when their boy lied us into a disastrous war in Iraq that killed over 4,000 Americans, wounded over 10 times that many, and killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.

What have you heard from the base about that genuine fiasco? Not a damn thing. But they are foaming and frothing over 110 private emails.

Does anyone need any better evidence than how brain washed the Republican base is? They are like trained seals, FAUX News holds up and fish and they clap on command.
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