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Old 07-08-2016, 10:37 PM
 
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Hard for Trump to win when Hillary already has 242 electoral votes in her purse long before election day. The same states that have voted for the D nominee since 1992. Doesn't matter who: Clinton, Gore, Kerry or Obama.

1 more state (Florida) gets her across the finish line, to say NOTHING about North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, Nevada, etc....

If this doesn't show that the election process is rigged I don't know what will honestly.

 
Old 07-08-2016, 10:45 PM
 
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Hard for Trump to win when Hillary already has 242 electoral votes in her purse long before election day. The same states that have voted for the D nominee since 1992. Doesn't matter who: Clinton, Gore, Kerry or Obama.

1 more state (Florida) gets her across the finish line, to say NOTHING about North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, Nevada, etc....

If this doesn't show that the election process is rigged I don't know what will honestly.
It's not rigged. Nothing's changed since 1787, stop it. The only problem is your party is less and less competitive every presidential election cycle. It's gonna be the 50s and 60s again when the GOP could barely hold the White House
 
Old 07-08-2016, 10:53 PM
 
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The only problem is your party is less and less competitive every presidential election cycle.
Error alert on your post:

1. Romney actually fared better against what YOUR incumbent than McCain did in '08.

2. I would be willing to vote for "the other party" (your party) if they would ever field anyone that wasn't corrupt as all get out and really cared about everyone in America, not just the wanted bunch.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Without regard to swing states, Hillary starts with 210 electoral votes compared to Trump's 165. There are 163 electoral votes that are in swing states. Hillary only needs 60 of them (37% of them). Trump, however, needs 105 of them (64% of them). So yes. Hillary has a much easier path to victory.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Hard for Trump to win when Hillary already has 242 electoral votes in her purse long before election day. The same states that have voted for the D nominee since 1992. Doesn't matter who: Clinton, Gore, Kerry or Obama.

1 more state (Florida) gets her across the finish line, to say NOTHING about North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, Nevada, etc....

If this doesn't show that the election process is rigged I don't know what will honestly.
so if your prediction is correct how did Bush win in 2000 and 2008? No, there are a lot of swing states that could go either way and BTW, you are saying the same states that voted D since 1992; do you really think AR will support Hillary? Obviously you don't know much about our state. NM is another state that has gone both ways: of course Ohio, Florida and Colorado are always swing states and will remain that way. Do I think Hillary will win? Unfortunately yes but I don't think your reasoning makes much sense as there are still states in the picture that may go either way.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Somewhere
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lol
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Somewhere
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Hard for Trump to win when Hillary already has 242 electoral votes in her purse long before election day. The same states that have voted for the D nominee since 1992. Doesn't matter who: Clinton, Gore, Kerry or Obama.

1 more state (Florida) gets her across the finish line, to say NOTHING about North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, Nevada, etc....

If this doesn't show that the election process is rigged I don't know what will honestly.
Is it really rigged?

If republicans would have chosen any other republican except Trump, Cruz and Christie they would probably be winning.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Jawjah
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Considering how insane Trump is and how many high profile Republicans will skip the GOP convention, getting 180 EVs is still astonishing.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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that one or possibly both candidates will exhibit a fatal flaw.
Nope. Doesn't matter what Hillary does. Huge swaths of Hillarybots will vote for her no matter what.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:36 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Any prediction this far out is worth nothing. Much will happen between now and November and there is a very high probability that one or possibly both candidates will exhibit a fatal flaw. However, Democrats do have a built in advantage on the electoral map from the get go. Don't count on a black turnout like 2008-it won't happen.
Even if it's far out (honestly, wouldn't call 4 months "far out"), I don't see what could change at this point that would put things more in Trump's favor. Already, major incidents like the Dallas shooting, Orlando, etc., have happened, and I see no sign that the political landscape has changed or will change. There's really nothing Trump can do to win at this point, IMO.
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