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Old 07-09-2016, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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^ California will likely never go Republican ever again. Same with New York.

 
Old 07-09-2016, 08:43 PM
 
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I also think Clinton could be competitive in South Carolina and Georgia. Those states aren't as Republican as most people perceive them to be in their urban areas.
Yep.

South Carolina is less than 70% white and Georgia is less than 60% white. Considering that blacks are likely to vote ~95% Democrat, you really don't need to persuade a large portion of whites over to Hillary.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Renton - Fairwood, Washington
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^ California will likely never go Republican ever again. Same with New York.
Which is why we are unlikely to ever see a Republican President ever again. By the time the Dems move in all the illegals, Syrians... whoever else will vote for them they will have a bigger stranglehold on the electoral college than they already do.

As I said upthread... in 10 years I fully expect the big prize states to be perma blue much like CA and NY are now.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Yep.

South Carolina is less than 70% white and Georgia is less than 60% white. Considering that blacks are likely to vote ~95% Democrat, you really don't need to persuade a large portion of whites over to Hillary.
The electorate in SC and GA, like elsewhere in the Deep South, is very inelastic. Democrats have lost virtually every statewide race in this region for years, even when the Republican candidate had vulnerabilities - and while Trump certainly does, Clinton isn't well liked at all among the majority of voters, particularly as she is adhering to liberal positions on many issues. I certainly think the odds are in her favor to win nationally, but VA, FL, and possibly NC would be about all she has a good chance of winning in the South.

Also the electorate is not as diverse as the general population, as a higher share of minorities are non-citizens or under age 18. Getting 40% of the vote in these southern states shouldn't be a problem for Clinton, but winning that remaining 10% for a majority will be far more difficult.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 09:13 PM
 
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Which is why we are unlikely to ever see a Republican President ever again. By the time the Dems move in all the illegals, Syrians... whoever else will vote for them they will have a bigger stranglehold on the electoral college than they already do.

As I said upthread... in 10 years I fully expect the big prize states to be perma blue much like CA and NY are now.
They can get elected again. Just move the party back to the frigging center.

The Republican party has just gone so far right over the years, they're virtually unelectable now, Trumps immigration policies are so extreme the GOP are beginning to lose states like Arizona.

If/when Trump loses they need to help pass immigration reform in 2017 at least so to detoxify themselves from Trumps anti Hispanic stench.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Hard for Trump to win when Hillary already has 242 electoral votes in her purse long before election day. The same states that have voted for the D nominee since 1992. Doesn't matter who: Clinton, Gore, Kerry or Obama.

1 more state (Florida) gets her across the finish line, to say NOTHING about North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, Nevada, etc....

If this doesn't show that the election process is rigged I don't know what will honestly.
It's not "rigged"; it means that the GOP needs to evolve beyond Bible thumping social conservatives, conspiracy theorists, and White resentment/White nationalist whiners who can't handle the diversity of 2016.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 11:51 AM
 
Location: North America
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oooooOOOOOooooOOOOO You gave Trump 80 delegates eh? Quite generous!
 
Old 07-10-2016, 11:59 AM
 
Location: North America
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This is likely Clintons best scenario

2016 Presidential Election Interactive Map


This is likely Trumps best scenario

2016 Presidential Election Interactive Map



For all the talk people are making some of these states are likely not going to be in play. North Carolina might be in play but it will be by a slim margin if it is. Georgia, Arizona, Missouri, South Carolina,Utah, Wisconsin, Illinois, Oregon, or Texas won't be.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: North America
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The best I can see Clinton doing is 345 and the best Trump can do is 285. I don't foresee him winning Virginia or Florida this election. Best case for him would be winning New Hampshire, Colorado, North Carolina, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and Iowa.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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This is likely Clintons best scenario

2016 Presidential Election Interactive Map


This is likely Trumps best scenario

2016 Presidential Election Interactive Map



For all the talk people are making some of these states are likely not going to be in play. North Carolina might be in play but it will be by a slim margin if it is. Georgia, Arizona, Missouri, South Carolina,Utah, Wisconsin, Illinois, Oregon, or Texas won't be.
Clinton has turned & burned the Coal producing States and the energy Industry. This will play big in the end.
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