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Old 07-10-2016, 02:35 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Hillary is going to be great!

The Republicans in Congress will disagree with her on things. She will strike a compromise with them (which is something Obama doesn't seem to want to do). And things will get passed. Government will function like it's supposed to.

I just wish she'd learn Bill's trick of biting his lip and saying "I feel your pain."
Maybe its not so bad if Hillary becomes prez, we all know that she can be bought off. Im sure if the NRA gives her $10 million dollars, she will become a gun rights supporter. Want to get rid of Obamacare? that will probably cost $15 million to her personal bank account to make it go away..
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Old 07-10-2016, 02:37 AM
 
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Some of the things he said I liked and I am a conservative Democrat.
Now he is actually scaring the crap out of me! I think if he was elected we might see our first real attempt at an American Facist Dictator state. Where in some twist of irony all the Liberals would become staunch advocates for the 2nd Amendment because they would quickly realize it's intended purpose.
The people of Vermont & New Hampshire especially have always realized it!

The above would depend on Trump actually not getting us into a nuclear exchange because somebody insulted him.

I cannot believe that I know some people that I have respected in the past and who I know are not stupid that may actually vote for Trump!

We have come too far in the last 60 years to start and try turning the clock back now!
Please people think!
Everything about what Trump has said indicates he'd try to rule more as a dictator than as a president. Would we see massive deportations under a Trump presidency? Maybe not, but we would have a president who used his executive powers to punish his enemies and reward his friends. One of the president's primary roles is to enforce laws and regulate business. You think Trump would be a fair and evenhanded arbiter? LOL. Please. Anyone who does is dangerously out of touch with reality.

Yes, Trump would be checked by the Congress on some matters, but there's not a lot the Congress can do to stop him from using the executive's law enforcement agencies for corrupt purposes. Also, even in areas where Congress could check his powers, would it? I have my doubts. In 240 years, the Congress has never really checked presidential powers. If Trump were elected president, I presume that would mean this was a Republican year, so we'd have a GOP Senate and House. I don't even think a Democratic Congress would stand up to Trump much less a Republican one.

Trump as president would be disastrous. Fortunately, it's not going to happen. The fact that he got as far as he did though doesn't bode well for the future. Some day, probably in the not too distant future, we'll cross the line from democracy into dictatorship.
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Old 07-10-2016, 02:39 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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I think he is going to be the best President we have for the long time, the world will respect USA again. Go Trump.
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Old 07-10-2016, 04:26 AM
 
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I think he is going to be the best President we have for the long time, the world will respect USA again. Go Trump.
this.

is 200 percent true.

people aren't going to kick sand on murrica anymore.
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:53 AM
 
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Some of the things he said I liked and I am a conservative Democrat.
Now he is actually scaring the crap out of me!
You are afraid = everyone should be afraid = fear mongering

What is the actual reason for the fear. = Inability to process information logically without emotion.

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I think if he was elected we might see our first real attempt at an American Facist Dictator state.
Looks like you came late to the party. The first attempt has already been made by the group you are a part of.
Obama is = an Autocratic, authoritarian leadership, is a leadership style characterized by individual control over all decisions and little input from group members. Autocratic leaders typically make choices based on their ideas and judgments and rarely accept advice from followers. Autocratic leadership involves absolute, authoritarian control over a group.
Clearly this has been the Obama style of leadership. Congress won't go along with Obama who won't compromise. Obama has purged the military of leaders who don't agree with him. Just two examples of many. Look at the appointments he's made for more proof. No need to post a long list that would be a waste of time an be ignored anyway.

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Where in some twist of irony all the Liberals would become staunch advocates for the 2nd Amendment because they would quickly realize it's intended purpose.
The people of Vermont & New Hampshire especially have always realized it!
This part of your comment needs more clarification. It's to bazar to go into the way it stands.

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The above would depend on Trump actually not getting us into a nuclear exchange because somebody insulted him.
There is no evidence to support this idea. When looking at the alternative there is plenty of evidence that crooked Hillary would be more likely to act in such a way. She has never failed to support and advocate for any and all wars proposed with no thought to the consequences.
This is part of the disconnect from reality that emotion causes. The fear is so great that the people that are on record doing what the OP is afraid of must be transferred based on personality. In other words. They assign the behavior of the one they support to that of one they don't. This is the twist put into the liberal ideology and used as a tactic to make others act emotionally, ignoring reality and logic. It has the element of confusion.
When I first began to formally study tactics and strategy I learned a fundamental principal that applies to every situation. "Confuse the enemy and you can defeat the enemy". This is true on the field of battle and sitting around the table in the boardroom of a company. Don't let anyone confuse the issue and you won't be confused about the solution.

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I cannot believe that I know some people that I have respected in the past and who I know are not stupid that may actually vote for Trump!
I can't believe that you are not listening more closely to your friends and putting considerably thought into what they are saying and the reasons behind their thinking. Pounding square pegs into round holes gets frustrating. Do less of it and anyone can benefit as the emotion is defused.

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We have come too far in the last 60 years to start and try turning the clock back now!
Please people think!
Why limit it to 60 years ? Go back 250 years and look at how the constitution has worked up to the present and think about what you would replace it with that would be better. Provide a reasonable rational solution and you will have no trouble finding an audience.
Explain away what the Repub's and democrats are doing in the name of fascism.
Here is subject matter to consider and decide if it is Trump or crooked Hillary's position :
As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer.
Fascism substituted the particularity of nationalism and racialism—“blood and soil”—for the internationalism of both classical liberalism and Marxism.

Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners. Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it. Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically. In doing all this, fascism denatured the marketplace. Entrepreneurship was abolished. State ministries, rather than consumers, determined what was produced and under what conditions.


Clearly this is the platform of crooked Hillary and a $ 15.00 per hr. min. wage is but one example. Putting entire industries out of business like coal is another but the list is long.
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Old 07-10-2016, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Hillary is going to be great!

The Republicans in Congress will disagree with her on things. She will strike a compromise with them (which is something Obama doesn't seem to want to do). And things will get passed. Government will function like it's supposed to.

I just wish she'd learn Bill's trick of biting his lip and saying "I feel your pain."
Bill Clinton ,when he raped women, would bite their lip . Do you find that entertaining?
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Old 07-10-2016, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Trump has a pretty large support numbers. I would guess about 25% of the population ...... in 'unrelated' news, about 25% of our population is racist.
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Old 07-10-2016, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Well, when I started looking at the candidates and researching them, I was looking for entertainment, but their stands on the issues and how they suspected they could get them addressed.

Nothing scares me more now than Trump not being elected. I can sit here and easily predict what happens if he isn't elected and nothing could be worse than that, so I have no issue giving him a chance over a proven liability.

Personally, I think from the get-go that this was simply one of a not so cleverly disguised anti-Trump posts. I mean, we have seen it all by now, haven't we Trump supporters?

Cost of amnesty $6.3 trillion and learn about nationalism versus globalism and then see what scares you!

Trump vs. Hillary Is Nationalism vs. Globalism, 2016 | The National Interest

20 Reasons Globalization is Wrong for America | Truth is Treason | Truth is Treason

Those that vote for Hillary just spit in the faces of all of our ancestors that sacrificed so much for our sovereignty and our continued sovereignty. Trump lives in the real world not a protected bubble like Hillary, thus his stance in based in reality.
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Old 07-10-2016, 07:34 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Trump will be entertaining even after he loses big in November. His GOP will once again pretend to do some self-analysis and come up with something along the lines of "We need to broaden our appeal" while doing all they can to alienate women and minorities. I look forward to the spectacle.
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Old 07-10-2016, 09:08 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by SailCT View Post
Some of the things he said I liked and I am a conservative Democrat.
Now he is actually scaring the crap out of me! I think if he was elected we might see our first real attempt at an American Facist Dictator state. Where in some twist of irony all the Liberals would become staunch advocates for the 2nd Amendment because they would quickly realize it's intended purpose.
The people of Vermont & New Hampshire especially have always realized it!

The above would depend on Trump actually not getting us into a nuclear exchange because somebody insulted him.

I cannot believe that I know some people that I have respected in the past and who I know are not stupid that may actually vote for Trump!

We have come too far in the last 60 years to start and try turning the clock back now!
Please people think!
Well, I certainly won't be voting for him. I work for a Fortune 500 Company and I don't know one co-worker that will be voting for him. . . I don't know who IS voting for him.

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Maybe if countries thought he would nuke them for a verbal insult, they would think twice about that insult.
Because that is a genius way to govern.

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Bill Clinton ,when he raped women, would bite their lip . Do you find that entertaining?
Trump, when he raped his own wife, tried to rip out her hair because he was unhappy with his. Do you find that entertaining?
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