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Old 08-12-2016, 09:27 AM
 
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The census uses "naturalized foreign born" and "not naturalized foreign born". They can't use legal or illegal since those numbers have to be estimated because no one will accurately check a box.

Naturalized is a status that changes in your life. "Foreign born" and "immigrant" refers to part of your past. It never changes for your whole life. My great uncle immigrated from Hungary in 1956 during the revolution. He was "foreign born" and an immigrant until the day he died last month. But he became a citizen so he was "naturalized".

We'll have to agree to disagree than. A naturalized citizen is no longer an immigrant status wise.
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Old 08-13-2016, 04:24 PM
 
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We'll have to agree to disagree than.
I disagree.
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Old 08-13-2016, 04:36 PM
 
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We'll have to agree to disagree than. A naturalized citizen is no longer an immigrant status wise.
Discourse is much easier when everyone uses the actual definitions of words, rather than making up their own definitions.

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immigrant
[im-i-gruh nt]
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noun
1. a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.
2. an organism found in a new habitat.
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Full Definition of immigrant
: one that immigrates: as
a : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence
b : a plant or animal that becomes established in an area where it was previously unknown
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immigrant
Pronunciation: /ˈiməɡrənt/
NOUN

1A person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.
1.1 Biology An animal or plant living or growing in a region to which it has migrated.
immigrant: definition of immigrant in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Citizenship is not an element of the definition of the word 'immigrant'. This is a fact. You can claim otherwise, but that isn't a disagreement - it's simply a denial of reality.
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Old 08-14-2016, 05:55 PM
 
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Discourse is much easier when everyone uses the actual definitions of words, rather than making up their own definitions.

Citizenship is not an element of the definition of the word 'immigrant'. This is a fact. You can claim otherwise, but that isn't a disagreement - it's simply a denial of reality.
I can't even understand why you would fight the dictionary. It's just like "foreign born". It's a statement about your past, and it never changes, even if they modify the constitution and you become POTUS.
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