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Old 07-12-2016, 05:05 PM
 
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Republican Convention Delegates Are Not 'Bound' to Donald Trump | National Review

Additionally good reasoning on whether delegates are bound or not.
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Old 07-12-2016, 05:09 PM
 
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I think this is the way to go and sets a great precedent for all the other states.

A check-and-balance is put on the political class by way of popular vote. However, there is a check-and-balance put in place for "unpredictable" elected representatives by way of the delegates. That is why we have juries and the Electoral College in place - to bridle the passions of mankind.

The people can be wrong in who they have elected. They can later find out information that they didn't know beforehand, and find they have been every bit as wrong as the person they elected.

Again, even though I agree with your point, you are conflating the general election (electoral college) the purpose of which is to elect a President, with the primary election, the sole purpose of which is for the Parties to nominate the candidate they choose to represent their party.

With regard to the Primaries, it is the DELEGATES that matter and not the popular vote. You are right that the DELEGATES during the primaries are acting in the same capacity as the electoral college in the general election, but some people are too obtuse to understand the difference between the primary and general elections, so it is best not to argue issues related to the general when discussing the primaries.
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Old 07-12-2016, 06:32 PM
 
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Take your own advice.

Seriously, Law genius, explain how the GOP rules apply to the Democrat Convention?
This would mean Clinton delegates wouldnt be bound to clinton, and could go for Sanders and vice versa.

While they were never bound per Democratic rules, this limits the Democrats from creating rules which would bind them.
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How did Dred Scott apply to non-slaves?
Supreme Court ruling that slavery was legal, allowed indentured servants, to become slaves, and if you think freeing the slaves, had no impact on non slaves, your kidding yourself.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:03 PM
 
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I fully expect that the Democratic convention will end the Super Delegates for good. The super delegates were a device created to create party unity back at a time in the 70s when the Democrats were in widespread disarray, just as the Republicans are now, and those days are past.

Just like the Republicans, the Democrats are also facing a new day. Whichever will meet the demands of the 21st century the most will rule the White House for a long time to come.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:13 PM
 
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I fully expect that the Democratic convention will end the Super Delegates for good. The super delegates were a device created to create party unity back at a time in the 70s when the Democrats were in widespread disarray, just as the Republicans are now, and those days are past.

Just like the Republicans, the Democrats are also facing a new day. Whichever will meet the demands of the 21st century the most will rule the White House for a long time to come.
not a chance the DNC will give up that much power and control to the public..
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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I fully expect that the Democratic convention will end the Super Delegates for good. The super delegates were a device created to create party unity back at a time in the 70s when the Democrats were in widespread disarray, just as the Republicans are now, and those days are past.
To the contrary, watching the GOP primary has made the Dems glad they have the super delegate backstop.
If anything needs to change, it's the GOP winner-take-all rules. I'm expecting them to move toward proportionate delegate allotments.
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