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Old 07-12-2016, 07:44 AM
 
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This is a silly argument. $7M is nothing compared to the billions that both sides waste on things far more trivial. And a drop in the bucket compared to the $19,000,000,000,000 national debt.

Is 7M is chump change to you then send me a 100k or so.
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:46 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Is 7M is chump change to you then send me a 100k or so.
Spoken like a true democrat.
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:48 AM
 
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And you know that HOW exactly?


That was the determintion, it's in the article.


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From what I understand, Nishimura DELIBERATELY downloaded classified info to his own devices.
Going back to Comey's comments any reasonable participating in those discussions should have known they should not be taking place on an unclsssified sytem. So we are back to is she incomepetent or liar?


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Not only that, but according to the FBI article, Nishimura took that device OFF BASE when serving in AFGHANISTAN!!!!!!!!!!!
And you think this any worse that publicly accessible server that entire world knows about that is open to hacking attempts 24/7/365?


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Finally Nishimura is the ONE WHO DOWNLOADED the classified info. Clinton never did that. She simple received e-mails SENT BY OTHER PEOPLE.
You really need some better sources of information.


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For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.
Just a quick note. The Top Secret/Special Access Program level is going to include things like black ops, special ops, nuclear matters and NATO communications. What he is discussing here are not trivial things.

Reread the above two paragraphs, reread them until it sinks in.
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:51 AM
 
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The problem with your theory is that you cannot PROVE she LIED. All she has to say is "I didn't notice those 3 little "C"s. If she BELIEVED that she didn't have any classified e-mails on her server, she didn't LIE - and there is NO WAY to PROVE that she didn't BELIEVE she had no classified e-mails on her server - especially considering the fact that NONE of the e-mails were properly marked as Classified (they were supposed to have a "Classified" header - but didn't). Perjury is almost impossible to prove in cases like this. So - as with the previous case, unless the FBI thinks they can PROVE the case, the FBI won't recommend prosecution and the justice department won't press charges.

So, it'll just be another futile effort on the part of the partisan GOP-led committee.

Ken
It's provable. She lied about more than one thing. It's on public record of her lying.
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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Whenever Hillary does what every other politician has always done - it's a crime punishable by death.
I'm not aware of any politician that was exclusively using a private server to conduct government business that included classified information classified at the highest levels.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:22 AM
 
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It's provable. She lied about more than one thing. It's on public record of her lying.
It's not provable for the other issue: Where she said she used her home email server so she could use one device(smart phone) for email. Then the FBI guy said she had multiple devices over time. However, this doesn't mean Hillary lied.

Switching to a newer version of cell phone after 2 years doesn't mean someone had 2 devices at once. In this case, Hillary didn't lie and neither did the FBI guy because upgrading a device to a new one is an entire different thing versus having one device on your person.

It's like calling someone a polygamist for having multiple wives when they got divorced and remarried to a different wife.
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Old 07-12-2016, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm just wondering why the only time the GOP congressional members work or move quickly is when they are going after their political hearing agendas. They really are a bunch of rabid dogs who spend most of their time sleeping other than when they go on the attack.
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I'm not aware of any politician that was exclusively using a private server to conduct government business that included classified information classified at the highest levels.
So?

What kind of server was Colin Powell using?

You think Gmail is secured? Aol.com?

Please
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Old 07-12-2016, 01:38 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Some people seem to want to address her lies to congress under oath as if it is only one lie.

Any one of the many being proved will convict her. They don't have to prove every lie, only one.

The easiest one would be her claim that she only used one device to communicate on.
True.

Time/date stamps and unique device identifiers are embedded in every email's header details.
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Old 07-12-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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So?

What kind of server was Colin Powell using?

You think Gmail is secured? Aol.com?

Please
Although definitely not secure for top secret government work, Comey did seem to imply they were better than the Hillary home brew, because they at least have large scale infrastructure that is monitored 24/7.

No excuse but just pointing out the clear difference between large name providers and a home system.
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