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Old 07-12-2016, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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He has said from Day 1 that he would endorse the Democratic candidate if he was not the nominee. He has never said he would run as an independent and it would never happen no matter how much Trump supporters would love to see that happen. If you care about the issues facing the working class, Trump is an unmitigated disaster as he has never and will never care about the people he sees as beneath him. His tax plan and SCOTUS nominees are probably written by Milton Friedman's Center for the Elimination of the working class. Trump needs the support of these types of think tanks in order to have a chance and that should be enough to not vote for him.
This thread is about bernie, not trump. And I trust no politician.

So he was a sellout from day one is what you are saying, harping on clinton about selling out to money, ties to Wall st, unfit to be president, the dem party is unfair/the system, etc yet endorses hil/the party in the end. And I wouldn't be surprised if you are right and that hil/sander's had a deal from the beginning to play a game to get more progressives to vote for hil. And I have no doubt many of the naive "progressives" will take the bait/vote for hil as a result.

Come on PCALMike, they were all hollow words/a script in the end and you are still trying to justify it all. You're trying to paint a rose on a trash can. You can't get rid of the stench by doing that but feel free to row down the river of denial to justify his typical sellout ways that all these clowns seem to revert to no matter their script. He's nothing more than an establishment sell out/a solid definition of a hypocrite.

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Sanders could have stood on principle and become a pariah in the Senate. At least with Clinton as President he still has the opportunity to enact law that represent his principles into law as opposed to just being a pariah. Being Senator Sanders is far better than just being Bernie the guy up in Vermont who tried to derail Clinton. His decision to endorse Clinton was wise, honorable and in line with his principles.
You joke of course.

sanders has harped on her that she's not "qualified" to be president, she's bought and sold by donors/wall st, etc and this is "in line with his principals".

And more.

I Despise Hillary Clinton, And It Has Nothing To Do With Her Gender





I know you love the queen but really thewisewino, not seeing the reality that sander's sold out/is a hypocrite?

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Old 07-12-2016, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by TheWiseWino View Post
Sanders could have stood on principle and become a pariah in the Senate. At least with Clinton as President he still has the opportunity to enact law that represent his principles into law as opposed to just being a pariah. Being Senator Sanders is far better than just being Bernie the guy up in Vermont who tried to derail Clinton. His decision to endorse Clinton was wise, honorable and in line with his principles.
The Honorable thing to do would be to tell people not to vote for a corrupt puppet of elite.

What he did was enrich himself. Good going Bernie. You are now well positioned for Political Sellout of the Year. I hope you got lots of money for it. You sure earned it.
 
Old 07-12-2016, 01:48 PM
 
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This thread is about bernie, not trump. And I trust no politician.

So he was a sellout from day one is what you are saying, harping on clinton about selling out to money, ties to Wall st, unfit to be president, the dem party is unfair/the system, etc yet endorses hil/the party in the end. And I wouldn't be surprised if you are right and that hil/sander's had a deal from the beginning to play a game to get more progressives to vote for hil. And I have no doubt many of the naive "progressives" will take the bait/vote for hil as a result.

Come on PCALMike, they were all hollow words/a script in the end and you are still trying to justify it all. You're trying to paint a rose on a trash can. You can't get rid of the stench by doing that but feel free to row down the river of denial to justify his typical sellout ways that all these clowns seem to revert to no matter their script. He's nothing more than an establishment sell out/a solid definition of a hypocrite.



You joke of course.

sanders has harped on her that she's not "qualified" to be president, she's bought and sold by donors/wall st, etc and this is "in line with his principals".

I know you love the queen but really thewisewino?
He has endorsed plenty of Democratic presidents before so why should this be any different? I didnt hear you claiming he was a "sell-out" when he endorsed Obama or when Obama endorsed him in Vermont. Just because there are differences of opinion doesnt mean Trump or deciding not to vote is a good solution! Sanders wants to see Medicare expanded, ban for-profit prisons and improving the bargaining power of the workers. That's not gonna happen with Trump, but absolutely can happen with Sanders a leader of a Democratic Congress. I dont care about all the crap about Hillary that is never about the issues. I care about lifting up the 99% and that is not what Trump is about. He is about himself.
 
Old 07-12-2016, 01:48 PM
 
Location: PA
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I wonder if Sanders will be VP choice? Maybe that is what this is about.... after all after the email issue maybe she needs the Bernie supporters. Not that they will all vote for Hillary but enough to swing the vote.
 
Old 07-12-2016, 01:51 PM
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His endorsement today of HRC means there is no reason for Bernie Sanders supporters not to support her now.

Indeed their sexism would be obvious to all if they don't.
 
Old 07-12-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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He has endorsed plenty of Democratic presidents before so why should this be any different? I didnt hear you claiming he was a "sell-out" when he endorsed Obama or when Obama endorsed him in Vermont. Just because there are differences of opinion doesnt mean Trump or deciding not to vote is a good solution! Sanders wants to see Medicare expanded, ban for-profit prisons and improving the bargaining power of the workers. That's not gonna happen with Trump, but absolutely can happen with Sanders a leader of a Democratic Congress. I dont care about all the crap about Hillary that is never about the issues. I care about lifting up the 99% and that is not what Trump is about. He is about himself.
uh, probably because of that chart I posted above that shows how opposite they are on so many major issues? The fact he called her unqualified for president just a short time ago? The fact he called her a sell out to big donors/wall street? How she voted to support the iraq war and how wrong that was for her? But......I WILL SUPPORT HER!!!

PCALMike, really, stop. We get your obsession to stop trump. But on the topic, that you choose to ignore over and over again doesn't address the painful hypocrisy of sander's endorsing one he disliked so much on so many policies so opposite of his.

But let me try to sit in your place a bit, floating down the river of denial....

The trees are so pretty down that river of denial today, my my my.....and the birds singing.....la la la la.

Wow, that does feel nice, especially with rose colored glassed on.
 
Old 07-12-2016, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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This election is the trial, and the American people are the jury.

" What difference does it make " Benghazi is calling...And it's NOT a VIDEO !
 
Old 07-12-2016, 02:09 PM
 
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He has endorsed plenty of Democratic presidents before so why should this be any different? I didnt hear you claiming he was a "sell-out" when he endorsed Obama or when Obama endorsed him in Vermont. Just because there are differences of opinion doesnt mean Trump or deciding not to vote is a good solution! Sanders wants to see Medicare expanded, ban for-profit prisons and improving the bargaining power of the workers. That's not gonna happen with Trump, but absolutely can happen with Sanders a leader of a Democratic Congress. I dont care about all the crap about Hillary that is never about the issues. I care about lifting up the 99% and that is not what Trump is about. He is about himself.
Same here. Trump is the wrecking ball to class warfare (ohhh scary word!); his entire purpose is to redirect working class anger from Wall St. and onto minorities and foreigners. Anybody that thinks Trump is going to help you is living deluded and has no hope left. Hell Hillary isn't gonna do anything either I can promise you that. The only solution is to wreck the GOP and permanently relegate it to the Deep Rural South where it belongs and revive the New Deal coalition.

I'll say it over and over , Trump and his Wall St. friends, the last thing they want is for poor whites, blacks, and Hispanics to realize they have something in common; they are poor and dying from alcohol and drug abuse because the economy left them behind
 
Old 07-12-2016, 02:10 PM
 
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His endorsement today of HRC means there is no reason for Bernie Sanders supporters not to support her now.

Indeed their sexism would be obvious to all if they don't.
So hard to keep up with all the sexist/racist democrats. Hillary supporters who didn't support Obama were racist, right?
 
Old 07-12-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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You make me laugh - Wall Street friends - the same ones that are donating to Hillary because they know if Trump is elected all bets are off. Come on now - god gave you a brain - use it!
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