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Since Bernie has only endorsed and not conceded the election, and has yet to release his delegates, I'm holding my breath for "the moment of truth". He can still contest the election at the DNC convention in two weeks like FDR did in 32' and went on the win the nomination.
After that we'll see what happens. Then I may go third party. Most likely with Jill Stein, Green Party. I've also read that if a third party gets 5% of the vote in the election then they will receive mandatory federal funding for further elections and a place on all ballots in every State, so it's not entirely throwing my vote away. Perhaps the prominent rise of a third party option will finally help alleviate this gridlock in Washington with the two party system strangle hold on things.
It's unfortunately evolved into a one party system with the only difference being how year-end bonuses are dished out to the party apparatchiks. No one should ever feel that it is a wasted vote by voting against the corrupt and polluted system that currently exists and is ruining the lives of hard working families everywhere. It is time to take a stand against corruption as usual.
It's unfortunately evolved into a one party system with the only difference being how year-end bonuses are disagreed out to the party apparatchiks. No one should ever feel that it is a wasted vote by voting against the corrupt and polluted system that currently exists and is ruining the lives of hard working families everywhere. It is time to take a stand against corruption as usual.
Left wing, Right wing. Two wings of the same bird. How true it is.
Whether the rules allow for this or not is irrelevant. After making such a big show of throwing his support behind Clinton, turning around and fighting for the nomination at the convention would seriously damage his credibility.
If he were going to pull something like this he would have endorsed the presumptive candidate in a much more passive manner.
I'm not going to vote for someone who has broken the law on classified information and lied about it, committing perjury. Her being covered by the FBI only solidified my viewpoint to NOT vote for her. I don't vote for corruption or for certain people to be above the law.
I'll vote third party. Frankly if Trump wins, I won't be upset. In some ways I'd rather have him win over HRC just as a blow back to the Dems for picking someone so unfavorable in the eyes of a lot of Americans and then protect her. To be fair Trump is unfavorable to a lot of Americans as well, but we really don't have a choice.
IF she broke the law - tell me which one. According to the FBI Director - your assumption is false. And HE is (was) a much beloved Republican.
Trump or not? You root for him - yet we know he is corrupt.
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which poll is this?
Pew Research poll.
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Ringo doesn't know how either to read polls - are she fudges them - just like the woman she supports. Hillary had 85% of the vote - without a 3rd party - she drops to 63 - 65% with the 3rd party - but that's never a guarantee either.
If Johnson picks up greatly in the polls and has a chance to win - I'll vote for him - but right now my vote is going to Trump as I don't want someone who has already lied to the American public as President.
How those of you that support her after all that's come out and knowing that each and every supposed concession she made with Bernie will be thrown to the wayside once she is elected - I just don't understand. She's more transparent than any other politician when it comes to showing her true colors and yet you blindly follow and believe she'll keep her promises?
Which poll are you looking at? Pew Research had her at 85% of Bernie voters.
Since Bernie has only endorsed and not conceded the election, and has yet to release his delegates, I'm holding my breath for "the moment of truth". He can still contest the election at the DNC convention in two weeks like FDR did in 32' and went on the win the nomination.
After that we'll see what happens. Then I may go third party. Most likely with Jill Stein, Green Party. I've also read that if a third party gets 5% of the vote in the election then they will receive mandatory federal funding for further elections and a place on all ballots in every State, so it's not entirely throwing my vote away. Perhaps the prominent rise of a third party option will finally help alleviate this gridlock in Washington with the two party system strangle hold on things.
Consider Johnson, not necessarily on principle but on the fact that he's on almost every ballot. He has a stronger chance to hit the threshold.
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I'll vote for Hillary. Most of us will. Hillary has never had and will never have the engaging personality that Bernie or even Trump has, but I like that she has moved her platform more to the left, and that she is agreeing with Sanders and Trump that our trade deals (including ones forged by her husband in the 90s) need to reevaluated because they are robbing Americans of jobs.
I didn't rule out Trump until he exposed himself as blatantly racist towards Mexican Americans. Cannot, will not support him as a candidate.
Hillary will say anything and change nothing. She'll sign TPP when it hits her desk. When she signs it she'll start blaming other people for the decision.
Consider Johnson, not necessarily on principle but on the fact that he's on almost every ballot. He has a stronger chance to hit the threshold.
Hillary will say anything and change nothing. She'll sign TPP when it hits her desk. When she signs it she'll start blaming other people for the decision.
TPP must not really matter much to you OR you haven't researched Johnson because he quite clearly has said he will sign it
If you're not voting for Johnson on principle - you might as well just sleep in. Why bother?
He is against any minimum wage; any restrictions on Wall Street; any restrictions on Free Trade - what is it about his policies that screams 'BERNIE' to you?
TPP must not really matter much to you OR you haven't researched Johnson because he quite clearly has said he will sign it
If you're not voting for Johnson on principle - you might as well just sleep in. Why bother?
He is against any minimum wage; any restrictions on Wall Street; any restrictions on Free Trade - what is it about his policies that screams 'BERNIE' to you?
Did you miss the non principal? The point is to add a third voice.
They also share the same social beliefs, I didn't really care for Bernies economic policies as they were. They also share the most important common belief, crony capitalism and money in politics are the barrier to improving the country. Hillary is the embodiment of those failed policies.
HRC will sign TPP as well, so by that logic a vote for her is a waste. We should sleep instead of voting for Clinton as well.
Did you miss the non principal? The point is to add a third voice.
They also share the same social beliefs, I didn't really care for Bernies economic policies as they were.
HRC will sign TPP as well, so by that logic a vote for her is a waste. We should sleep instead of voting for Clinton as well.
Not only will she sign it, she'll twist arms to make sure it's passed. Free Slave Treaties are at the heart of the Elite agenda.
Those who support Clinton are no different than those who have benefited from slave labor in the past. They support slave labor because it benefits their wallet.
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