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Old 07-13-2016, 10:37 PM
 
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Somewhat related but I believe Trump is just as bad. During the GOP campaign he continuously proclaimed that Cruz was a liar (lying Ted) and even took shots and Cruz's wife and father. Trump then asks Cruz to speak at the convention? Why would you ask a "liar" to speak? Trump better watch it. Cruz may sucker punch Trump by saying something very negatively about Trump and then walk off stage. That would make for good entertainment.
I don't really see why you're saying "Trump is just as bad". Trump asking Cruz for support is like Hillary ASKING Bernie to support her...no one would blame her for trying to get his support. And how could one blame Trump for wanting Cruz's support? Thus, one could say Cruz is just as bad as Bernie or vice versa...granted, there's probably far less ideological differences between Trump/Cruz vs Bernie/Clinton.
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Old 07-14-2016, 03:37 AM
 
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More wishful thinking. Faced with a choice between Clinton and Trump, most Bernie supporters will support Clinton because Trump is totally unacceptable to them. If they were anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-Latino, anti-Semitic misogynists who believed in screwing over the poor and middle classes to give more tax cuts to the wealthy and to corporations, they'd already be Trumplets.
Nice list of untruths you just posted.

Trump is not anti-gay, not anti-immigrant, not anti-Latino, not anti-Semitic, not anti-poor, and not anti-middle class.

He is anti-illegal immigration and pro America for Americans.

He is against globalization (Wall Street) and for the working and middle classes.

How desperate the Hillary supporters must be that they simply make things up all the time.

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Furthermore, Trumplets misunderstand the relationship between Clinton supporters and Bernie supporters in the Democratic Party. We're not at war with each other, and never were in this election cycle. We supported different candidates, but most of us were good with either one. Both represented ideas most of us are comfortable with. Consequently, we compromised: Bernie lost the nomination but he won almost all of his platform planks.
Not true.

Hillary is a tool of Wall Street. Bernie is opposed to Wall Street.

Bernie supporters are not going to support a tool of Wall Street, period.

They have a lot more reasons to support Trump than they have to support Hillary.

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Trump is opposite of everything you posted. Trump is for the safety of Americans. Does not want a welcome mat out for ISIS or illegals. Trump will be a job producer. Grow the tax base putting more people to work which will bring taxes down for the middle class.
Exactly.

He'll bring jobs back to the rust belt by renegotiating bad trade deals.

The Democrats are supposed to care about American workers, but all they care about now is illegal aliens and not offending Muslims and people who riot and burn down their own neighborhoods.
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Bernie lost the nomination but he won almost all of his platform planks.
And that platform plank is more worthless then the paper it is written on. A person would have to be naive to really think that Hillary is against the TPP. Hillary is at least smart enough to know that Bernies ideas are going no where.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:00 AM
 
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I would never vote for Trump, but the burn sure did kill off his own movement.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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I would never vote for Trump, but the burn sure did kill off his own movement.
Why? He is still in congress and actually has a party to back him now.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Don the Nut needs to get voters from anywhere he can. Bernie supporters will not go to him. He is lying on every statement he makes and has not been vetted properly. Still waiting on those tax returns, the report from his detective in Hawaii as well as the proof that Cruz father was part of the JFK assassination.

Also the information on his use of debt to bring on bankruptcy. How many vendors he caused to fail and the number of jobs which were lost. This guy has nothing and will do nothing except hurt the country.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Don the Nut needs to get voters from anywhere he can. Bernie supporters will not go to him. He is lying on every statement he makes and has not been vetted properly. Still waiting on those tax returns, the report from his detective in Hawaii as well as the proof that Cruz father was part of the JFK assassination.

Also the information on his use of debt to bring on bankruptcy. How many vendors he caused to fail and the number of jobs which were lost. This guy has nothing and will do nothing except hurt the country.
I really don't get how people can claim to know what Bernie supporters will do w/ their vote.

Are you friend to every soul who lives in this country? It's really strange, these kinds of claims.

Most they can do is hope former Bernie supporters will vote for her, but alot of them won't.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:31 AM
 
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My family voted for Sanders and will vote for Hillary because voting Third Party or sitting home would be an indirect vote for Trump. We do not want President Trump. The vast majority of Sanders supporters will support Hillary.

Go on a Democrat website. You can see for yourself. It is a very small percentage of Sanders supporters who say they will not vote for Hillary. The Independent voters is unknown what they will do.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Texas
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My family voted for Sanders and will vote for Hillary because voting Third Party or sitting home would be an indirect vote for Trump. We do not want President Trump. The vast majority of Sanders supporters will support Hillary.
I sincerely believe you hope for this, but you really have no idea

If so many people do not want her to be president, they have nothing to lose by casting their vote for someone else
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:43 AM
 
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I sincerely believe you hope for this, but you really have no idea
Think about this. Sanders has endorsed Hillary, yet you have Republicans (Jeb Bush for one) who have come out and said they cannot endorse or vote for Trump. There is more division in the Republican Party than there is in the Democratic Party this year. How many "establishment" Republicans will vote Third Party or sit home? Remember Ross Perot? Who did he take votes away from?

This may be the first year I actually watch the Republican Convention. It should be very interesting.
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