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Old 07-18-2016, 07:20 AM
 
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Yeah? So why to gunners say that they should be able to carry anywhere/anytime because of the (currently) blessed 2A.

So why do ????? say.....

That is a generalization.

"gunners" like any other group of people in the world all have similarities as well as differences.

I can't speak for all "gunners", but I can speak for myself and say I do not have a problem with people making whatever rules they wish on their own private property. If I don't like their rules I can choose to go elsewhere.

Would you support that same stance?

 
Old 07-18-2016, 07:20 AM
 
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The owners of the forum CANNOT take away your 2nd amendment right.

They can only make their private property a "gun free zone" if they wish.
That removes no one's rights, because no one is compelled to step foot on their private property.



It isn't rocket science guys.
In our small town, there are two different credit unions. One has a sign that they don't allow guns inside. The other does allow guns inside. Generally, government buildings, certain facilities, and other, private properties, don't allow guns inside. That is NOT "taking away your 2nd amendment right". All "rights" have limits - like your 1st amendment right doesn't include things like defamation, or shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater - unless there really is a fire in the theater.

My understanding of the open carry issue at the RNC is that the guns will be all outside the facility, not inside it. And, suspending the law to "keep the peace" would be illegal, in addition to being a very, very bad precedent.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 07:22 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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So why do ????? say.....

That is a generalization.

"gunners" like any other group of people in the world all have similarities as well as differences.

I can't speak for all "gunners", but I can speak for myself and say I do not have a problem with people making whatever rules they wish on their own private property. If I don't like their rules I can choose to go elsewhere.

Would you support that same stance?
I didn't say "all gunners", I said "gunners". But if you want to play a semantic-quibble dodge that's fine.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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I didn't say "all gunners", I said "gunners". But if you want to play a semantic-quibble dodge that's fine.
I answered your question , but you didn't answer mine. But I am the dodger?

Interesting...
 
Old 07-18-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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Malls don't allow guns either. There are many places that guns are not allowed and it is a private owners decision.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 07:25 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I answered your question , but you didn't answer mine. But I am the dodger?

Interesting...
I dismissed it because it wasn't relevant.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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Seems you are priming us so you can tell us why trump lost.
As powerful as some people feel the clintons are, why would anyone at all even attempt to run against hillary? I don't understand why they didn't just seize power back when bill was president, since the rest of the world is sooooo powerless against the name of clinton. They get away with everything! It must make it hard to sleep at night, worrying about who their next victim will be...
 
Old 07-18-2016, 07:29 AM
 
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I dismissed it because it wasn't relevant.
Hypocrisy is always relevant. To those who are paying attention anyway.

Feel free to expound on how i was "dodging" anything unless of course that is irrelevant also.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 07:56 AM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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Malls don't allow guns either. There are many places that guns are not allowed and it is a private owners decision.
And why do so many private businesses choose not to allow people to carry guns in when it's so clear---according to the gun lobby--- that more guns equals safer communities?

Are all those private businesses wrong and making their customers less safe?
 
Old 07-18-2016, 07:56 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I think the OP finds it hard to believe that gun lobby's political puppets would rent a venue that doesn't allow guns. I agree.

I agree. Surely they could have found a venue more in keeping with their 'good guy with a gun' philosophy and one of their largest corporate sponsors.

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Why would there be a shoot out with all those law abiding gun owners packing heat inside the convention center?
Good question. The more guns we have, the safer we are, no?


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In our small town, there are two different credit unions. One has a sign that they don't allow guns inside. The other does allow guns inside. Generally, government buildings, certain facilities, and other, private properties, don't allow guns inside. That is NOT "taking away your 2nd amendment right". All "rights" have limits - like your 1st amendment right doesn't include things like defamation, or shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater - unless there really is a fire in the theater.

My understanding of the open carry issue at the RNC is that the guns will be all outside the facility, not inside it. And, suspending the law to "keep the peace" would be illegal, in addition to being a very, very bad precedent.
Yet, that is exactly what the city of Cleveland has asked their Governor to do. So far, Kasich has refused.
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