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Old 02-18-2008, 09:58 PM
 
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My point is that he used anothers words!
Please respond to my post, then.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:07 PM
 
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What Obama Means<br> By Unity

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As the voiceover in one of his ads explains, "Only Barack Obama can bring a fractured people together. .  .  . He embodies the hope of our nation."
http://www.culturewars.org.uk/2007-05/orange.pdf
Half of a Yellow Sun

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Their reunification is finally brought about only in part by love; Adichie suggests that communicating shared experience or heritage can also be crucial in bringing a fractured people together, and in rebuilding a broken nation
??? These aren't exactly the same but it's something to think about... The second one was a fiction winner in 2007

I wonder if there is more of this kind of thing?
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:08 PM
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If this isn't a 'tempest in a teapot' then I don't know what is.

... oh my, I think someone might have used that idiom once before me. I'm a plagiarist now.

I'm sure that all candidates have used the words of others in their speeches, lets face it, they are making loads of speeches on very little sleep, it happens. I'm sure that Hillary and McCain have done and will do the same thing before it is all over, and frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

and oh my again, I believe someone said that before too.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:08 PM
 
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1. Learn to spell.
2. Let's say you were to dig up a transcript of the speeches Patrick and Obama each gave. How close would you say they are? Close enough to stand up in court?
3. Okay, for the sake of argument, let's say Obama plagiarized wrongfully. How do you feel about Hillary's plagiarism--that is, using a ghostwriter for "her" book It Takes A Village? Furthermore, did you read anywhere in Hillary's book that she cited/credited the phrase "it takes a village" to the African proverb whence it came?
Plagiarist. Got it. Thank you.

I don't care about Ms. Clinton.

Mr. Obama plagiarized.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:11 PM
 
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Alec Baldwin is a gifted speaker too. He does a lot of voiceover work for National Geographic. That doesn't mean I would vote for him if he ran for office.

If Obama is stealing a lot of words/ideas from others, I think the public has a right to know.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:13 PM
 
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Plagiarist. Got it. Thank you.

I don't care about Ms. Clinton.

Mr. Obama plagiarized.
Okay, then how about point #2: how closely do the words compare, and do you not think that Patrick was involved in the speechwriting?
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:18 PM
 
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Alec Baldwin is a gifted speaker too. He does a lot of voiceover work for National Geographic. That doesn't mean I would vote for him if he ran for office.

If Obama is stealing a lot of words/ideas from others, I think the public has a right to know.
That was kind of my point. He may or may not deserve one's vote, but there is no denying his quality as a speaker.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:19 PM
 
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Smile bad thread

These threads are so bad. They really shine a bad light on my daily serving of hope and change
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:20 PM
 
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Alec Baldwin is a gifted speaker too. He does a lot of voiceover work for National Geographic. That doesn't mean I would vote for him if he ran for office.

If Obama is stealing a lot of words/ideas from others, I think the public has a right to know.
Yes, I hear ya. I like Alec Baldwins voice very much.

I want to know if Obama is is stealing words/ideas. If he has original ones, I am waiting to hear with an open heart.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:24 PM
 
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Yes, I hear ya. I like Alec Baldwins voice very much.

I want to know if Obama is is stealing words/ideas. If he has original ones, I am waiting to hear with an open heart.
Look up his ideas on his website. They're very clearly posted.

I happened to mention to my mother (who voted for Bush in 2004, of all people ) that I will probably end up voting for Obama, and she said that it seems to her that Obama's all style and no substance. I then quizzed her on his platform, and like everyone else who has made that accusation she has never tried to find out what his platform issues are, and where he stands on them. For example, she had never heard of this new idea he's proposed for a national infrastructure bank, and I'll bet most people on here haven't either.
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