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Old 08-07-2016, 06:11 AM
 
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So "demanding" them, is rather pointless.. but you go ahead and stomp your feet and whine like a baby, waaaa, waaaa, I want tax returns..
lol

I once did two searches, one for 'president stompy feet' and one for 'president stompy foot'. The only president (of anything) who came up in any of the hits was Obama.
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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Somewhere you guys on the left got some type of mental illness or misunderstanding about how our process works. You dont get to run around making unfounded accusations about others and then "prove its not true"..
What unfounded accusations?

The accusation that Mr Trump won't release his tax returns? That's a fact.

The accusation that Mr Trump is making assertions about his wealth and his generosity to charities? It's a fact that he is making such assertions. And the people do get to run around challenging those assertions. The process works because the people are entitled to challenge those assertions.

And all Trump has to do is release his tax returns to prove that HIS assertions are true. But he won't do that. Hmmmmmm......
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Old 08-08-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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What unfounded accusations?

The accusation that Mr Trump won't release his tax returns? That's a fact.

The accusation that Mr Trump is making assertions about his wealth and his generosity to charities? It's a fact that he is making such assertions. And the people do get to run around challenging those assertions. The process works because the people are entitled to challenge those assertions.

And all Trump has to do is release his tax returns to prove that HIS assertions are true. But he won't do that. Hmmmmmm......
Well, we "demanded" Obama release his college transcripts..he never has..we "Demanded" Hillary release the transcripts of the Goldman Sachs speeches..she has no intention of doing so, and hey..the libs dont care if they do...so the fact that the libs are whining about Trump not releasing his tax returns is just more hypocrisy.
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Old 08-08-2016, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Well, we "demanded" Obama release his college transcripts..he never has..we "Demanded" Hillary release the transcripts of the Goldman Sachs speeches..she has no intention of doing so, and hey..the libs dont care if they do...so the fact that the libs are whining about Trump not releasing his tax returns is just more hypocrisy.
Only hypocrisy here is Donnie demanding that Romney release his returns in 2012, as is customary with 40 years of precedent. The rest of bogus GOP BS because no one else but Obama was asked to release college transcripts (which Donnie hasn't released of course) and no one else but Hillary has been asked to release speech transcripts (which Donnie hasn't released of course).

You're welcome for today's vocabulary lesson on what the word hypocrisy actually means.
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Old 08-08-2016, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Only hypocrisy here is Donnie demanding that Romney release his returns in 2012, as is customary with 40 years of precedent. The rest of bogus GOP BS because no one else but Obama was asked to release college transcripts (which Donnie hasn't released of course) and no one else but Hillary has been asked to release speech transcripts (which Donnie hasn't released of course).

You're welcome for today's vocabulary lesson on what the word hypocrisy actually means.
Im not sure who "Donnie" is...

If you mean Mr Trump..then you must be hiding under your bed. He has already said they he is being audited and on the advice of his accountants, he should not release them. And by the way, what do you expect to find? What earth shattering realization would come of releasing them that could possibly interest you in the least?
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Old 08-08-2016, 08:55 AM
 
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Well, we "demanded" Obama release his college transcripts..he never has..we "Demanded" Hillary release the transcripts of the Goldman Sachs speeches..she has no intention of doing so, and hey..the libs dont care if they do...so the fact that the libs are whining about Trump not releasing his tax returns is just more hypocrisy.
First of all, candidates don't release their college transcripts.

Second of all, what assertions did Obama make about his college grades that could only be proven by his transcripts?

Trump IS making claims. About how wealthy he is, and how charitable he is. HE is the one making such claims. So people are entitled to ask for proof.

And by the way, Obama released his tax returns. We have the Clinton tax returns going back for YEARS.

Where are Trump's tax returns?
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Old 08-08-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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Im not sure who "Donnie" is...

If you mean Mr Trump..then you must be hiding under your bed. He has already said they he is being audited and on the advice of his accountants, he should not release them. And by the way, what do you expect to find? What earth shattering realization would come of releasing them that could possibly interest you in the least?
I want to know if he's as wealthy as he claims to be and if he is as charitable as he claims to be. He's the one who is offering up these assertions to prove he is qualified to lead this nation. He makes the assertions, he needs to prove them when challenged.
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Old 08-08-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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What unfounded accusations?

The accusation that Mr Trump won't release his tax returns? That's a fact.

The accusation that Mr Trump is making assertions about his wealth and his generosity to charities? It's a fact that he is making such assertions. And the people do get to run around challenging those assertions. The process works because the people are entitled to challenge those assertions.

And all Trump has to do is release his tax returns to prove that HIS assertions are true. But he won't do that. Hmmmmmm......
Well, for that to happen, all the IRS has to do is end the audit.

You should complain to the IRS to end the audit.


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First of all, candidates don't release their college transcripts.

Second of all, what assertions did Obama make about his college grades that could only be proven by his transcripts?

Trump IS making claims. About how wealthy he is, and how charitable he is. HE is the one making such claims. So people are entitled to ask for proof.

And by the way, Obama released his tax returns. We have the Clinton tax returns going back for YEARS.

Where are Trump's tax returns?
Why do you care?

How are you going to determine how Trump is worth by his tax returns?

Why don't you look at his financials he released to the FEC, or look at his charitable foundation to see how much he does for charity?

Those two things would answer your questions, but we know that is not what you want. You want tax returns because no matter what is in them, you are going to attack him.


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I want to know if he's as wealthy as he claims to be and if he is as charitable as he claims to be. He's the one who is offering up these assertions to prove he is qualified to lead this nation. He makes the assertions, he needs to prove them when challenged.
He did prove those assertions, his released his financials to the FEC, and you can see the Trump Foundations records.

So there you go, there is no need for you to see his tax returns.
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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Why do you care?

How are you going to determine how Trump is worth by his tax returns?

Why don't you look at his financials he released to the FEC, or look at his charitable foundation to see how much he does for charity?

Those two things would answer your questions, but we know that is not what you want. You want tax returns because no matter what is in them, you are going to attack him.




He did prove those assertions, his released his financials to the FEC, and you can see the Trump Foundations records.

So there you go, there is no need for you to see his tax returns.
I care about what Trump is claiming, and what the truth is. It isn't like Trump isn't prone to exaggeration.

And his charitable foundation says NOTHING about how generous HE is. He hasn't put his own money into his foundation for YEARS.

I want his tax returns because he's not some precious wittle baby. He's a candidate for President of the United States, and candidates have been releasing their tax returns for decades. Release of those tax returns is part of the vetting process that candidates undergo. A fact that Trump is well aware of, since in the past he's called for candidates to release their tax returns.
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Old 08-08-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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I care about what Trump is claiming, and what the truth is. It isn't like Trump isn't prone to exaggeration.

And his charitable foundation says NOTHING about how generous HE is. He hasn't put his own money into his foundation for YEARS.

I want his tax returns because he's not some precious wittle baby. He's a candidate for President of the United States, and candidates have been releasing their tax returns for decades. Release of those tax returns is part of the vetting process that candidates undergo. A fact that Trump is well aware of, since in the past he's called for candidates to release their tax returns.
We all know you only want his returns to attack him, which you will do no matter what is in his returns.

Like I said, if you want to see his returns, put pressure on the IRS to end the audit.

If Trump is going to release his returns (which are completely irrelevant) then Hillary should release her medical records.

With her documented brain injury, and blood clot in her head, and needing to be helped up steps, her medical records are much more relevant than tax returns.
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