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This platform is insane. Once there is a right to jobs and healthcare, it means you receive a job and healthcare just b/c you're still alive. That would require businesses to give people jobs even if the business does not have any openings and even if the person with a right to a job cannot deliver in the roles that the business is seeking to staff. It would mean healthcare providers cannot charge for their services.
Utter drivel.
With more and more people and fewer and fewer jobs the alternative is you are going to pay people to do nothing.
Sanders was popular because her talked about the rigged system. However, he lost many when he advocated more government spending which at the end only benefits the corrupt political and economic system.
I don't agree with this part of your post. Sanders talked about taxing the rich much more and breaking up the big banks, which was against the political and economic system we have in place along with being against the TPP and wanting to bring back Glass-Steagall which is why the Dems fought so hard to keep him from winning. Many liked how Sanders had a protectionist view of our economy, he ironically shares this view, this one sole view, with Donald Trump.
No it is not.......now, by me saying that I am not denying that government corruption isn't a huge problem and doesn't need addressed.
Which in part brings us to discussing a third party.
Unfortunately, the moment Glass-Steagall was repealed, which empowered government to spend $trillions upon $trillions that it doesn't have, the government became totally polluted with the worse kind of people. Money corrupts, and unlimited money corrupts absolutely. Third-party candidate have to run on bringing everything under control. Health spending is spiraling uncontrollably and is bankrupting our control. People feel the symptoms but don't know the cause. It is quite specifically the rapeal of Glass-Steagall under Clinton. Tons had been written about this but I witnessed it first-hand.
Looks to me like we'll save Trillions and Trillions by ending the wars-including war on "drugs", nationalizing healthcare and the Federal Reserve, repealing the Patriot Act/NSA, ending the Billions in foreign aid, etc.
Break up “too-big-to-fail” banks and democratize the Federal Reserve.
Establish federal, state, and municipal publicly-owned banks that function as non-profit utilities and focus on helping people, not enriching themselves.
Make Wall Street, big corporations, and the rich pay their fair share of taxes.
End the failed war on drugs. Replace drug prohibition with harm reduction. Legalize marijuana/hemp. Treat substance abuse as a health problem, not a criminal offense.
Release nonviolent drug offenders from prison, removing such offenses from their records, and provide them with both pre- and post-release support.
Repeal the Patriot Act that violates our constitutional right to privacy and protection against unreasonable search and seizure.
Establish a foreign policy based on diplomacy, international law, human rights, and nonviolent support for democratic movements around the world.
Cut military spending by at least 50% and close the 700+ foreign military bases.
Stop U.S. financial and military support to human rights abusers. Barring substantial changes in their policies, this would include Saudi Arabia, Israel and Egypt.
End the destructive US economic and military intervention into the affairs of sovereign nations. Such intervention serve the interests of multinational corporations and global capitalism over the interests of the vast majority of the citizens of those nation
End the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, withdrawing troops and military contractors.
Eliminate the doctrine of corporate personhood that among other things has been used to justify unlimited corporate spending in elections with a constitutional amendment to clarify that only human beings have constitutional rights.
Require full disclosure of corporate subsidies in the budget and stop hiding subsidies in complicated tax code.
Eliminate the cancer of health insurance, which adds costs while reducing access to health care, at huge savings by eliminating the $400 billion annually spent on the paperwork and bureaucracy of health insurance.
Specific and I believe a platform that would speak to people's concerns.
Unfortunately, the moment Glass-Steagall was repealed, which empowered government to spend $trillions upon $trillions that it doesn't have, the government became totally polluted with the worse kind of people. Money corrupts, and unlimited money corrupts absolutely. Third-party candidate have to run on bringing everything under control. Health spending is spiraling uncontrollably and is bankrupting our control. People feel the symptoms but don't know the cause. It is quite specifically the rapeal of Glass-Steagall under Clinton. Tons had been written about this but I witnessed it first-hand.
If it's really what the people want it can be reinstated. Granted, Hillary and Trump won so right now it seems it isn't what people want.
I don't agree with this part of your post. Sanders talked about taxing the rich much more and breaking up the big banks, which was against the political and economic system we have in place along with being against the TPP and wanting to bring back Glass-Steagall which is why the Dems fought so hard to keep him from winning. Many liked how Sanders had a protectionist view of our economy, he ironically shares this view, this one sole view, with Donald Trump.
I agree. He became laser focus on the rigged economic system of which had been built on the twin pillars of neo-liberal (Clintonian) policies:
1) The repeal of Glass-Steagall which gave the Banks unlimited economic power and
2) The Free Slave Treaties which gave Big Corporations unlimited access to cheap labor.
This platform is insane. Once there is a right to jobs and healthcare, it means you receive a job and healthcare just b/c you're still alive. That would require businesses to give people jobs even if the business does not have any openings and even if the person with a right to a job cannot deliver in the roles that the business is seeking to staff. It would mean healthcare providers cannot charge for their services.
Utter drivel.
So do I not deserve to live because I can't spend 40,000 on the 1 1/2 hour surgery I had to get to remove a cancer tumor? I mean there's a few people in the top 1% that can afford that out of pocket but with insurance going through the roof with Obamacare (part of this was requiring that insurance companies not deny a client based on pre-existing conditions, which I have myself as having an autoimmune disease and at one point having cancer) meaning they were forced to take on losses. In a way I view this as a good thing, if insurance is required we shouldn't be denied it because of something that happened to us, out of our control, before the new policy. My insurance took quite a bit of that 40,000 but they will get back at me somehow when I look for my own insurance plan in a few years.
Nationalizing healthcare through a single-payer system would mean people who do get serious illnesses like cancer and PTSD can get the care they deserve. Many children get serious illnesses who fall under the pre-existing conditions clause that used to exist here and many could not afford insurance when they became adults because some of them were that bad. And many middle-class people cannot afford to pay for their child's healthcare if they ever got sick. This would mean no extra stress on adults who fall ill, as we all know stress can make your health worse.
I don't agree with the right to jobs. However, we should encourage tax incentives maybe for businesses to employ more people. Our economy shouldn't be favoring off-shoring and replacing humans with robots, a tax incentive or some other program would be a step in the right direction.
If it's really what the people want it can be reinstated. Granted, Hillary and Trump won so right now it seems it isn't what people want.
Most people are hurting, hence the Trump and Sanders insurgency which generated more votes than the Establishment votes. The Establishment won the Democratic primary by cheating and is now all in behind their Puppet.
With more and more people and fewer and fewer jobs the alternative is you are going to pay people to do nothing.
So the answer is to force businesses to hire? How is the business going to pay people it doesn't need? What if the hired person is incompetent but the employer is forced to retain and pay them? If you're owed a job just because you're alive, aren't you owed a minimum per annum salary? How much? Why not more?
I'd take the opposite approach -- shrink the government, reduce taxes, reduce regulations, simplify taxes, reduce the power of lobbyists, reduce the power of government to appease lobbyists. This would lead to millions of more jobs than we have now and far fewer people who need assistance.
I agree. He became laser focus on the rigged economic system of which had been built on the twin pillars of neo-liberal (Clintonian) policies:
1) The repeal of Glass-Steagall which gave the Banks unlimited economic power and
2) The Free Slave Treaties which gave Big Corporations unlimited access to cheap labor.
Combined, they have destroyed middle America.
Jill Stein does say she wants to bring back Glass-Steagall in her platform.
If by Free Slate Treaties you mean Free Trade Agreements like NAFTA, she does state that she wants to get rid of those.
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Replace NAFTA and other corporate free trade agreements that export American jobs, depress wages, and undermine the sovereign right of Americans and citizens of other countries to control their own economy and political choices. Enact fair trade laws that benefits local workers and communities.
You can find this under Jobs as a Right category, last bullet point.
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