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Old 09-01-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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This thread gets a little boring when Hillary isn't up bigly in the polls.

 
Old 09-01-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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I only see ONE other poll listed from Hampton on RCP. The sample size isn't significant enough to truly establish how that poll trends.

The take away I see is that in August we saw Clinton leads of +12, +13, +19 and +12 in Virginia - now, like in a lot of states, we are seeing her lead heavily cut into. As Nate Silver pointed out, Wisconsin is another example of that happening - at one point she had a solid double digit lead...now it's competitive. This must be worrying the hell out of dem strategist. Trump was on defense for much of August, but now he's on offense and the poll numbers are reflecting it. Hillary...well she has disappeared.
According to CNN she is not hiding. She is saving her resources because it's early. Not even Labor Day. Smart move they say. I had to chuckle. I said the same thing about Trump and his poll numbers when many were counting this election as over and I was basically laughed at by the liberal know it all posters. Now that is the excuse as to why she has had 2 speaking engagements in two weeks. Lol.
 
Old 09-01-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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Default Sadly ... Most Amrican Citizens Are Fed Up With The Political Circus !!!

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Hampton University has Hillary up two percent. The last poll from a few weeks ago had her up 12%.

How is Trump totally shatting on Hillary's big leads?

How has he done it so quickly? Just 2 weeks ago we had people talking about Hillary's decorating plans for the White House - now she's in a dog fight.

Has America just started paying attention to the election and are now bombarded with Hillary scandals?

Is Hillary healthy enough to be engaged in a battle like this?

In fact, where the hell is she?
eddiehaskell poses some extremely relevant questions regarding the current exceedingly dismal race for the "Ole Yankee WH" !!! ... It truly appears as if at long last many of the younger male and female Conservatives are slowly beginning to wake up and make a commitment for the "Trumpster". Although the probability of well participated in voter turnout for this vitally important U.S. election may well be a pitiful disappointment once again ! ... Up here in my little township on the East Coast ...the young folks, military vets, factory workers, farmers, truck drivers, school teachers, police, lawyers, retired folks, an on and on are not at all bashful about their current intentions to vote the "Trumpster" into the WH ! ... Not many I have encounter have mentioned supporting the other candidate and the miniscule amount that do also voice serious concerns about the matters of lack of trust and virtually no confidence in this seemingly shady and untruthful DINO !!! ... Of course these folks would naively vote along party lines regardless ... and that's a most dangerous action in any important decisions that must be made ! ... Most of the Church Folks, resort owners, golf club owners and regular golfers, many of the bankers, butchers, bakers, and candlestick makers are falling in with the "Trumpster" ! ... These folks are saying that the idea of someone running for political office that isn't a lawyer or a nightmarish career politician ... is a good thing ... a very appealing thing ... and well worth the effort to elect !!! ..... Yep, ... It ain't over until "The """ Lady Sings and dammed if it don't appear as if Mr. Trump has a very good chance at the Oval Office !!!!

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Old 09-01-2016, 03:37 PM
 
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This must be worrying the hell out of dem strategist.
Not at all. Why do you think they call it the Clinton machine?

The Clinton campaign uses their own internal professional pollsters and pricey subscription premiere services like Cook Political Report. They collect massive amounts of polling and voter data and continually parse and analyze it. It's doubtful they even look at one tiny poll like Hampton U.

If their lead is tightening in VA, they knew it before this poll was published. They know exactly where it's slipping, down to the precinct level, and they'll decide if they need to respond with resources like volunteers and targeted ads. But they won't waste time worrying.
 
Old 09-01-2016, 03:41 PM
 
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Also, remember that Clinton has suspended ads in Colorado and Virginia. We will be able to see how threatened they feel in Virginia by how fast they get back on the air.
 
Old 09-01-2016, 03:43 PM
 
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Not at all. Why do you think they call it the Clinton machine?

The Clinton campaign uses their own internal professional pollsters and pricey subscription premiere services like Cook Political Report. They collect massive amounts of polling and voter data and continually parse and analyze it. It's doubtful they even look at one tiny poll like Hampton U.

If their lead is tightening in VA, they knew it before this poll was published. They know exactly where it's slipping, down to the precinct level, and they'll decide if they need to respond with resources like volunteers and targeted ads. But they won't waste time worrying.
That machine needs a large overhaul and extra grease at the moment.
 
Old 09-01-2016, 03:48 PM
 
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You mean a poll by another pollster? That's comparing apples and oranges because they all have different methodology and use different algorithms on how they decide if they have a representative sample and so on. Comparing polls from the same pollster over time are what gives you information about how a candidate is doing, not comparing one poll to another.
That can't be true because not all pollsters regularly release polls. Hampton for example has released 2...spread out over nearly two months. Looking at the previous poll would tell me nothing because the race has fluctuated several times since mid July. You had Trump doing well around mid July, Hillary running away in the polls in late July/most of August and now Trump storming back in late August/early September.
 
Old 09-01-2016, 03:52 PM
 
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[u]When will the dems stop with the faux confidence "comfortable lead" crap and admit there's a problem with Clinton possibly being unelectable?
I suppose the Democrats will start to worry when the RealClearPolitics average lead for Hillary falls to a single digit. Of all the VA polls conducted in August, the RCP average was 10.8. Congrats on an outlier from a polling outfit that gets only "B" in the 538 pollster retrospective rating, but it's just one poll. No one is sweating yet.

Mick
 
Old 09-01-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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Not at all. Why do you think they call it the Clinton machine?

The Clinton campaign uses their own internal professional pollsters and pricey subscription premiere services like Cook Political Report. They collect massive amounts of polling and voter data and continually parse and analyze it. It's doubtful they even look at one tiny poll like Hampton U.

If their lead is tightening in VA, they knew it before this poll was published. They know exactly where it's slipping, down to the precinct level, and they'll decide if they need to respond with resources like volunteers and targeted ads. But they won't waste time worrying.
By that logic, no campaign in the last 40 years has worried about anything - both major parties have access to basically the same resources. Simply knowing something is happening doesn't mean it isn't something they worried to death about. Getting over confident in ones ability to "fix" everything can often backfire.
 
Old 09-01-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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This thread gets a little boring when Hillary isn't up bigly in the polls.
You are right, Trump fans post all sorts of excuses about polls not being valid whenever Trump is down. Yet as soon as he is somewhat close, all the polls magically become reliable.

Have some integrity, folks.

Mick
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