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Old 09-08-2016, 03:13 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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We can talk all day, but Romney's chance of winning at this time was 15-20%. Trump beats that by a good 10%. Wasn't the point you were making hinged on Romney having a nearly 70% chance of winning in September? That number looks to be proven false.
No, I never said Romney had a 70% chance of winning. Where did I say that?

Ken

 
Old 09-08-2016, 03:13 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Latest presidential poll: Military overwhelmingly choosing Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton | AL.com


Another with higher approval ratings


They see a better leader, more than anyone can
 
Old 09-08-2016, 03:13 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Trump made a good point. Our vets should be able to go to any doctor or any hospital for treatment. I will never understand the need for VA hospitals.
 
Old 09-08-2016, 03:16 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Trump made a good point. Our vets should be able to go to any doctor or any hospital for treatment. I will never understand the need for VA hospitals.

My dad refused to go to the VA. He said as long as I can remember, that it was a death sentence to go there.
It might be free to me, but you get what you pay for.
 
Old 09-08-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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Quinnipiac

Ohio


Trump 41%
Clinton 37%
Johnson 8%
Stein 2%

They also have Trump tied in FL, down in NC by 4% and down in PA by 5%.

Updated RCP averages:

FL - Clinton +0.3%
NC - Clinton +0.3%
OH - tied
PA - Clinton +5.8%
 
Old 09-08-2016, 03:17 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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The left is going nuts over last night's town hall. Just google "Lauer Clinton" and there are pages of articles completely trashing Matt Lauer. Many of them are furious that he asked her questions about the email scandal. That's amazing to me that this would surprise them. They must live in a bubble. Or maybe they were just expecting a main stream TV personality to just throw her softball questions.
 
Old 09-08-2016, 03:19 PM
 
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So essentially you are saying that no one on the GOP side would have had a chance against Hillary (I'll agree with that) since Trump was the "best" choice and he's STILL losing.

That 10% chance you mention for Romney last time around was true on election day, but not in September.
Found a message board with a post from 9/13/2012 (just about 4 years ago to the day) that quotes 538 giving Obama a 64.3% chance of winning, so apparently Trump is running a bit behind where Romney was at this stage.
Considering that Romney lost, that's not looking too good for Trump.

538's %'s vs everybody else's "Tossup" rating - Straight Dope Message Board

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...=2016-election

Ken
Edit: I skimmed that and thought you said Romney had a 64% chance of winning.

Regardless, point still stands - Romney had a 15-20% chance of winning. Thus, Trump is outperforming him. By mid September, Obama had a ~80% chance of winning...peaking at nearly 90% by late September.

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Old 09-08-2016, 03:27 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Edit: I skimmed that and thought you said Romney had a 64% chance of winning.
No problem. I've mis-read things myself from time to time.

Ken
 
Old 09-08-2016, 03:32 PM
 
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Updated 3 hours ago, Polltracker has

Ohio - Trump by 2.1
PA - Clinton by 4.2
Fl - Clinton by 0.8
 
Old 09-08-2016, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Too funny! an NBC poll done after last nights town hall style question and answer with both Hillary and Donald:




Trump Crushes Hillary Clinton Among Military and Veteran Voters, According to This New NBC Poll - Townhall.com Staff

The poll was from prior to the Town Hall. It also


Trump Crushes Hillary Clinton Among Military and Veteran Voters, According to This New NBC Poll
That poll wasn't done after the Town Hall and shows him losing overall....
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