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Old 08-09-2016, 10:12 AM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 17 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by stburr91 View Post
So we are supposed to believe that Hillary's unfavorably, and trustworthiness ratings dropped after the DNC, and millions of Bernie supporters, and Independents turn away from Hillary, that somehow she then surges in the polls?

Sorry, but that defies logic.

The polls are being skewed by polling more democrats.
That last line is somewhat true, but its not true in the way you think. Democrats were actually underpolled beforehand.

As for the first paragraph, every single party unity poll shows that more Bernie supporters are on board with her after the convention than before.

 
Old 08-09-2016, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Originally Posted by cremebrulee View Post
The polls mean NOTHING! There are tons of people out there like me, who refuse to partake in the polls, number one reason for me, is you cannot vote the polls without leaving your telephone number, and once you do that, they are calling you all the time.

We all have our reasons, but believe me, the polls mean nothing....
Correction - they mean nothing TO YOU when they're not showing what you want them to show.

Overall, polling is pretty darn accurate. Do you seriously think that marketing and political professionals would pay very serious money to pollsters if polling always meant nothing????
 
Old 08-09-2016, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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The polls mean nothing! That's why Donnie spent half the primary talking about how well he was doing in them, right?
he and Hill can say what they want, but the polls mean nothing....

there are thousands and thousands of people who do not partake in the polls...
 
Old 08-09-2016, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Every election, ABC News, has their DEM candidate winning the polls....and I mean every election, not just since Obama has gotten in....

the media is so freakin biased, it's pathetic....
 
Old 08-09-2016, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Sad, but good for LOLs, that Trump supporters are desperately claiming that Twitter followers and Facebook likes are better metrics than scientific polls.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Originally Posted by MTQ3000 View Post
"Mr. Trump is taking Oregon very seriously," says Daniels. "He believes he can win here."

Then again, Trump used to say repeatedly that he would win NY, CA, CT, etc. You don't hear him say that any more. Manafort obviously set him straight. That will happen with OR, too.

Mick
Oregon is somewhat in play for Trump:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Oregon: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

As much as SC is for Clinton. The eastern part of Oregon is very much like Idaho.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by cremebrulee View Post
he and Hill can say what they want, but the polls mean nothing....

there are thousands and thousands of people who do not partake in the polls...
You can't combat this kind of logic. It's not because it is so profoundly astute that you have no rebuttal; it's because you realize that no matter what you say the commenter doesn't understand polling. They have no concept of a representative sample. They can't fathom how unless every voter is personally contacted a poll can be completed. Essentially, it's like trying to teach algebra to someone who can't add.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Originally Posted by cremebrulee View Post
he and Hill can say what they want, but the polls mean nothing....

there are thousands and thousands of people who do not partake in the polls...
Millions and millions, actually.

But there is empirical data showing how to create a representative sample which does in fact have predictive value.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Clinton = Rigged, they are the masters!
Can you please explain how all of the polls could be rigged by the masterful Clintons? Can you be specific? How did they ever get Fox News to bias the polls in her favor?

From the article you apparently didn't read:

"...Think about what that means: The website is saying that a large number of professional pollsters who make their living trying to provide accurate information — and have a good record of doing so — are all deliberately biasing the polls and aren’t correcting for it. Like many conspiracy theories, that seems implausible..."

So what you are basically saying is every pollster organization and all of their employees in this country are biased for Clinton? Well, if that were the case, it would certainly appear that she's winning anyway--that's a pretty large sampling of people.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 10:24 AM
 
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Well, well. Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight and Stu Rothenberg in the WaPo have decided the election is over and we can all go home now.

Coincidence?
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