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Old 08-05-2016, 08:46 PM
 
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400 million paid to a country that is not our ally.

How many people in cities like Chicago and other hard hit cities could have benefitted from that money.

Im glad the 4 hostages are freed so don't get me wrong but why would anyone risk to go to Iran. Isn't that kind of what can happen.

400 million could feed a lot of kids in this country who are in shelters or people who live welfare without not being a criminal and trying to get ahead.

400 million is a lot of money and just the way Iran can view it will put more Americans at risk. Even if it wasn't meant as hostage exchange money the Iran people will see it that way.
Why were the hostages kept so long at the airport and let go after the money plane landed.
It is not what Obama tries to sell us but how Iran perceives it.

 
Old 08-05-2016, 09:08 PM
 
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The timing is really stupid and looks very bad, but this was money Iran paid the USA back in the 70s before the Iranian revolution for weapons they were buying. Carter put a freeze on these deals with Iran.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...3a2_story.html

If Obama wants to believe it wasn't part of a deal to get back those four prisoners, so be it, but I'm not buying it.

Last edited by Ibginnie; 08-05-2016 at 10:31 PM.. Reason: off topic
 
Old 08-05-2016, 09:17 PM
 
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400 million paid to a country that is not our ally.

How many people in cities like Chicago and other hard hit cities could have benefitted from that money.

Im glad the 4 hostages are freed so don't get me wrong but why would anyone risk to go to Iran. Isn't that kind of what can happen.

400 million could feed a lot of kids in this country who are in shelters or people who live welfare without not being a criminal and trying to get ahead.

400 million is a lot of money and just the way Iran can view it will put more Americans at risk. Even if it wasn't meant as hostage exchange money the Iran people will see it that way.
Why were the hostages kept so long at the airport and let go after the money plane landed.
It is not what Obama tries to sell us but how Iran perceives it.

....................... and the insanity of liberalism and low information voters want "four more years" of this?

It is time for America to take its founding principles back. The problem is that there are not that many Americans left to do so.

When the public realizes that the rule of law is not uniformly applied and that they, as citizens, work more for the priveledge of government, than themselves, the seeds of insurrection have been sewn.

Liberals, by their insane, totalitarian agendas, are sewing the seeds for insurrection. No man seeks to devote their personal labor and toil for the benefit of another man (or government). Those governmental entities who seek to defy this desire are working nefariously to defy the willingness of men to seek and establish personal liberties and freedom.

Liberalism= Fascism
 
Old 08-05-2016, 09:39 PM
 
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....................... and the insanity of liberalism and low information voters want "four more years" of this?

It is time for America to take its founding principles back. The problem is that there are not that many Americans left to do so.

When the public realizes that the rule of law is not uniformly applied and that they, as citizens, work more for the priveledge of government, than themselves, the seeds of insurrection have been sewn.

Liberals, by their insane, totalitarian agendas, are sewing the seeds for insurrection. No man seeks to devote their personal labor and toil for the benefit of another man (or government). Those governmental entities who seek to defy this desire are working nefariously to defy the willingness of men to seek and establish personal liberties and freedom.

Liberalism= Fascism
But we have infrastructure to maintain. And that's only one thing. Who do you think is going to pay for this. You don't want your personal labor and toil to go to another man? So if your home or community is damaged by a hurricane or tornado, etc... then you are on your own, right...because you don't want government involved.
 
Old 08-05-2016, 10:39 PM
 
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400 million paid to a country that is not our ally.

How many people in cities like Chicago and other hard hit cities could have benefitted from that money.

Im glad the 4 hostages are freed so don't get me wrong but why would anyone risk to go to Iran. Isn't that kind of what can happen.

400 million could feed a lot of kids in this country who are in shelters or people who live welfare without not being a criminal and trying to get ahead.

400 million is a lot of money and just the way Iran can view it will put more Americans at risk. Even if it wasn't meant as hostage exchange money the Iran people will see it that way.
Why were the hostages kept so long at the airport and let go after the money plane landed.
It is not what Obama tries to sell us but how Iran perceives it.
you don't pay that money and you tell them that if they don't release the hostages, they're going to get nuked and blown to kingdome come. this is just so soft its incredible, and you're right, we're paying taxes and that money should have stayed in america to help americans.
 
Old 08-06-2016, 12:15 AM
 
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400 million paid to a country that is not our ally.
It wasn't our money. It was money we seized and were now giving back. The international court in The Hague was going to rule against the US and levy higher interest payments - so Obama did a deal with Iran to get them the money quicker in exchange much lower interest penalties and an understanding that the prisoners would be released. A good deal for the US - a lower payment and a prisoner release. It wasn't our money to spend.
 
Old 08-06-2016, 12:25 AM
 
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if they don't release the hostages, they're going to get nuked and blown to kingdome come.
Threatening to nuke them is a silly bluff that would only make the US look weak.

Seriously? '"We will nuke and kill the hostages* and millions of civilians if you don't release the hostages*."

*hostages = dual Iranian/American citizens in Iran who were charged with breaking Iranian law (spying and Christian proselytizing).
 
Old 08-06-2016, 04:28 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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400 million paid to a country that is not our ally.

How many people in cities like Chicago and other hard hit cities could have benefitted from that money.

Please spare us the BS that the right actually gives a rat's ass about helping people in cities like Chicago.

HOW many questions were you asking about the wisdom of invading/occupying a country at a cost far, far greater. HOW many people in America could have been helped by the $2 Trilliuon + that war is said to have cost so far at NO benefit to the US?
 
Old 08-06-2016, 04:34 AM
 
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But we have infrastructure to maintain. And that's only one thing. Who do you think is going to pay for this. You don't want your personal labor and toil to go to another man? So if your home or community is damaged by a hurricane or tornado, etc... then you are on your own, right...because you don't want government involved.
Last year, my brother in law had some financial trouble... after his girlfriend left with his money. He was falling behind on rent. When he came to me for help, I paid 2 months rent for him.

This year, I've been trying to get him to pay me back. I even told him he only has to pay in little instalments, like 300 or so each month. He's been complaining to people that I am trying to take his hard earned money.

The ironic thing is he's an ultra conservative homophobe.

Is this how conservatives view borrowed money?
 
Old 08-06-2016, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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....................... and the insanity of liberalism and low information voters want "four more years" of this?

It is time for America to take its founding principles back. The problem is that there are not that many Americans left to do so.

When the public realizes that the rule of law is not uniformly applied and that they, as citizens, work more for the priveledge of government, than themselves, the seeds of insurrection have been sewn.

Liberals, by their insane, totalitarian agendas, are sewing the seeds for insurrection. No man seeks to devote their personal labor and toil for the benefit of another man (or government). Those governmental entities who seek to defy this desire are working nefariously to defy the willingness of men to seek and establish personal liberties and freedom.

Liberalism= Fascism
Did you have to wipe the spit off your monitor after you typed that?
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