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Old 07-04-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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He's losing college grad women by 19% to 30%. It's so bad, he's in danger of being the first Republican to lose white college grads overall since 1952. The loss on the white college female side is all but negating the gain for Trump on the white non-college male side.
update please

 
Old 07-04-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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update please
Trump was able to win back enough white college women to win squeakers in states like PA.

As per the exit polls, Trump won white college voters by 3%, which is the worst showing by an R candidate since 1952. He lost white college women by 7% (51-44).

Probably the most revealing exit poll data is that Trump won with an overwhelming edge among self-identified Christian evangelicals (80-16), which made up 37% of the total white vote and 26% of total votes cast. Among those whites not identifying as Christian evangelicals, (63% of white voters and 45% of total votes cast) Clinton won by 49-43. Evangelical turnout in 2016 was estimated at 85%.

The good thing for the GOP is that they were able to draw to an inside straight in 2016 by getting key voters to the polls in key states.

The bad news is that they haven't solved their demographic problem. They are still overly dependent on older, white non-college and evangelical voters that are losing voter share with each election.

It's not a certainty that the Democrats will own the future, but it is certain that the current GOP coalition has basically maxed out on turnout and will continue to lose voter registration share with each POTUS election due to generational displacement. If the GOP is unable to expand their coalition by increasing their share of white college grads and minority groups and continues having to depend on that diminishing supply of white blue collar/evangelicals, they'll have to depend on turnout, and as the evangelical turnout estimates of 85% for 2016 indicates, there's relatively little potential there for growth, barring a great new national fundamentalist revival.

http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls

Last edited by Bureaucat; 07-04-2017 at 03:34 PM..
 
Old 07-04-2017, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Originally Posted by Bureaucat View Post
Trump was able to win back enough white college women to win squeakers in states like PA.

As per the exit polls, Trump won white college voters by 3%, which is the worst showing by an R candidate since 1952. He lost white college women by 7% (51-44).

Probably the most revealing exit poll data is that Trump won with an overwhelming edge among self-identified Christian evangelicals (80-16), which made up 37% of the total white vote and 26% of total votes cast. Among those whites not identifying as Christian evangelicals, (63% of white voters and 45% of total votes cast) Clinton won by 49-43. Evangelical turnout in 2016 was estimated at 85%.

The good thing for the GOP is that they were able to draw to an inside straight in 2016 by getting key voters to the polls in key states.

The bad news is that they haven't solved their demographic problem. They are still overly dependent on older, white non-college and evangelical voters that are losing voter share with each election.

It's not a certainty that the Democrats will own the future, but it is certain that the current GOP coalition has basically maxed out on turnout and will continue to lose voter registration share with each POTUS election due to generational displacement. If the GOP is unable to expand their coalition by increasing their share of white college grads and minority groups and continues having to depend on that diminishing supply of white blue collar/evangelicals, they'll have to depend on turnout, and as the evangelical turnout estimates of 85% for 2016 indicates, there's relatively little potential there for growth, barring a great new national fundamentalist revival.

Exit Polls 2016
Which no GOP candidate has done in nearly 30 years
 
Old 07-04-2017, 05:14 PM
 
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Trump was able to win back enough white college women to win squeakers in states like PA.

As per the exit polls, Trump won white college voters by 3%
Thanks. You should always update prediction threads, even when most were flat out horribly wrong.
 
Old 07-05-2017, 12:59 AM
 
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If Trump of all people can get enough women voters to win an election, what makes you think other Republican candiates cannot? This should scare Democrats massively. Obama was an anomaly. Simple as that.

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Old 07-05-2017, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The diploma divide, and its effect on the political map.
Good call.


If the Dems can't beat Trump after all they threw at him last time, no way he loses next time.
 
Old 07-05-2017, 03:21 AM
 
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If Trump of all people can get enough women voters to win an election, what makes you think other Republican candiates cannot? This should scare Democrats massively. Obama was an anomaly. Simple as that.
Correct. Obama drove up inner city turnout enough to overcome Democrats problems with many major demographic groups.

That is not a transferable thing.
 
Old 07-05-2017, 04:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Bureaucat View Post
Trump was able to win back enough white college women to win squeakers in states like PA.

As per the exit polls, Trump won white college voters by 3%, which is the worst showing by an R candidate since 1952. He lost white college women by 7% (51-44).

Probably the most revealing exit poll data is that Trump won with an overwhelming edge among self-identified Christian evangelicals (80-16), which made up 37% of the total white vote and 26% of total votes cast. Among those whites not identifying as Christian evangelicals, (63% of white voters and 45% of total votes cast) Clinton won by 49-43. Evangelical turnout in 2016 was estimated at 85%.

The good thing for the GOP is that they were able to draw to an inside straight in 2016 by getting key voters to the polls in key states.

The bad news is that they haven't solved their demographic problem. They are still overly dependent on older, white non-college and evangelical voters that are losing voter share with each election.

It's not a certainty that the Democrats will own the future, but it is certain that the current GOP coalition has basically maxed out on turnout and will continue to lose voter registration share with each POTUS election due to generational displacement. If the GOP is unable to expand their coalition by increasing their share of white college grads and minority groups and continues having to depend on that diminishing supply of white blue collar/evangelicals, they'll have to depend on turnout, and as the evangelical turnout estimates of 85% for 2016 indicates, there's relatively little potential there for growth, barring a great new national fundamentalist revival.

Exit Polls 2016

Don't forget Ohio.

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Old 07-05-2017, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Isn't it amazing what a difference a few months can make? When will people realize an article or two isn't the final word and most are slanted. We all want to believe what we read if the writer share our views, but some of us keep an open mind and realize what we want to believe and what is real can be very different.

Almost every educated woman I know supported Trump and that goes from some in the 80s down to ones in their 20s. His winning had more to do with educated and uneducated that didn't bother to vote, but love to voice their opinion all the time.
 
Old 07-05-2017, 08:30 AM
 
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Speaking of women, I had to wonder how Trump got as many women to vote for him as he got.

https://www.google.com/#q=trump's+comments+about+women
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