Hillary will win in a landslide (MAP) (NAFTA, biased, dollars)

[Mr. In-Between]

Originally Posted by Mack Knife

Maybe you should consider that the polls have been wrong many times before.

Polls taken in August have been very inaccurate in the past. Take a look.

This being such a unique election, putting too much credence into August polls seems strange.

Glad to. Post up some examples, and let's see 'em. Very inaccurate polls in August, and a significant number of them please.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by Ace Rothstein

1. Why?

Because economic theories that welfare, stimulates economies is complete bull ****..

Originally Posted by Ace Rothstein

2. I'm aware of that. You're saying Clinton won't by as much because of the same reasons though. Obama actually outperformed the polls.
3. I do not think there is much excitement around Clinton but I think there are a lot few Republicans and Independents supporting Trump than there were Romney.

At the end of the day, Republicans will bite their tongue and vote for Trump out of shear hatred for Clinton. Like I said, there wont be enough of it to win in the end..

Its ridiculous we're down to a candidate thats been a complete jackass, vs one as corrupt as possible.

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by Bureaucat

Could be. The only stretch to me is Georgia.

It's going to interesting to see if the rural/suburban splits are more pronounced this year than usual. Trump is outperforming Mitt in rural areas, but he's trailing what a Republican usually does in suburbia. It's basically the college/non-college gap transferred to a map. If Trump can't turn around his numbers with white college women, he's going to have to not only dominate the white non-college vote, but boost the turnout of non-college to almost historic levels, and since the percentage of votes cast by white non-college have shrunk in all by 1 election since 1980, that's one tall order.

Nate Cohn pointed out why they might be the case. Trump has a lot of room to grow with WWC voters in the north, but almost no room in the south. Mainly because the GOP already gets almost all of them already. However, since he is bleeding support among minorities and college educated voters it puts places like NC and GA into play.

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by Clark Park

Nonsense.

I don't think there will be any landslides for either Hillary or Donald.

I can't see Georgia or North Carolina or Iowa going for Hillary. On the other hand I think she will carry the northeast, the upper mid-West and the Pacific coast.

North Carolina could go for her. Remember Obama won it and only lost it by two points the last time. I'm a little more skeptical about Georgia going in her direction though.

[MaseMan]

I just saw a news report yesterday that said Trump has only one field office in the entire state of Florida. We're three months from the election, and Florida is a state that Trump has to win if he wants any chance.

He is going to lose in an electoral college landslide. Anecdotes don't mean anything. A lot of the pro-Trump rhetoric in this thread reminds me of the stuff we heard from Romney supporters in 2012 ("He's going to win...I can feel it in my bones!").

How many of you people are going to disappear from this forum by about 9 PM EST on election night, I wonder?

[SharpshooterTom]

Originally Posted by Ace Rothstein

These are literally the same arguments that were used in 2012 for why Romney would win.

Obama was a far more popular and charismatic candidate than Hillary is, on a given election she would struggle to motivate millennial and minority turnout compared to Obama. The only reason why she might get away with it in this election is Trump will probably motivate her base for her because he's so god damn scary.

[johnp292]

Originally Posted by Patsfan20

The days will be brighter when the darkness of Hildabeast is defeated forever!

So, in four to eight years then?

[philkirkham]

Originally Posted by SharpshooterTom

Obama was a far more popular and charismatic candidate than Hillary is, on a given election she would struggle to motivate millennial and minority turnout compared to Obama. The only reason why she might get away with it in this election is Trump will probably motivate her base for her because he's so god damn scary.

and Trump doesn't seem bothered about a ground game - the voters will just come out
( see last paragraph of this )

[lunetunelover]

Originally Posted by Clark Park

Nonsense.

I don't think there will be any landslides for either Hillary or Donald.

This. Because of technology and a more "global" communications system, there will never be another landslide.


It doesn't matter though.


If it ends up being 52-48, the winner will declare a "landslide victory" or a "referendum".


If I remember correctly, dems said that Obama won by a landslide and that his election was a "referendum".


2008 the electoral votes were 52.9% to 45.7%
2012 the electoral votes were 51.1% to 47.2%


VERY close. Nowhere near a landslide or "referendum"


But enough for a win and for the other side to be ignored.

[Patsfan20]

Originally Posted by johnp292

So, in four to eight years then?

She won't get in the White House........maybe as a guest I suppose, but I don't hink Trump would allow it.