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Old 08-17-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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Bottom line: Trump's spiel, delivered safely from a 95% white town 25 miles from Milwaukee, was that blacks have it too easy, too many privileges and support programs, and he is going to show them tough love.
When American awakens to accept the truth, that Public Service Use is consumed by whites at a rate of 7:1(+) above blacks. and 3.5 times more whites use public service benefits, than the total number of the whole black population. and it is 7:1(+) when based on the actual number of black who use public service benefits.

When the truth of these numbers ever sink in the heads of Right Winger white society, then and only then they will began to learn about the current day (Confederate Groomed Republican Party of Today). It is not the party of Lincoln, nor is it even the Republican Party of the Confederate South, because the Confederate South Republican party was not for the wealthy land owners and slave owners, the Confederate Southern Democrats were for the Land Owners and Business and Slave, Indentured Servant holder.

The Confederate Southern Democrats, TOOK OVER the Republican Party in 1969, Under the President Nixon Regime, the same regime, that SET UP and planned the shipping of Ore Processing, Steel and every other Industry in Construction Materials, to China. Because they did not want to see minorities or women, become part of the Union and earn middle class income, in the process they made it difficult for poor whites and working poor whites to become middle class or remain being middle class, by shipping away the jobs.
The republicans considered the poor whites and working poor whites to be "expendable", as long as the goal of denying these jobs to be available for minorities and women.

LEARN PEOPLE..... LEARN !!!!! ...... It is time for American's to know the truth, learn the truths and begin to familiarize themselves with reality that they may know the truths.

Inner city violence was structured, by first packing people into "Projects", while the same society built suburban homes communities for white people. ( Study how Oakland, changed and followed this format after World War II).
The system knew that people would deteriorate when packed into jail styled Project's with poor functioning jobs, no jobs available for upward mobility, and minimal benefits available, and it was a set up, that played right into the Jim Crow Ideology to have means and reason to push a delusion that blacks were less than. It was a structured process. Which they knew would breed violence, high pregnancy, and high delinquency, as well as broken homes.
Even when minorities were able to struggle and get away from the project, they could go no further than a community which has been previously "used by whites until it was on the down slide of upkeep and maintenance, then they would allow blacks to move into these communities, ALREADY KNOWING, that over the span of 5-10 yrs, their income would not improve to keep pace to allow them to maintain those properties, and ultimately the community would fall, and the same Project conditions would dominate the community.
HUD, tried to help by "EDUCATING PEOPLE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF HOME OWNERSHIP, but it has been too little, too late for far too many communities. The people result to be trapped. Jobs left and people got older and communities fell down around them.

We have to face the truths, these same factors happen to many small towns white people as well, where their communities met the exact same fate, except they were often in Suburbs, rather than inner cities communities, so violence did not spread as rapid as like it does in the cramping of run down inner cities. President Ronald Reagan flooded these poor communities with Cocaine, and other drug, until the communities never knew what hit them, and they have sank further down, in a drug, violence and addiction spiral... The Reagan era drug treatment closed shop, the minutes they got all the well to do, young people clean and sober, then they shut down the clinic's and insurances companies became reluctant to pay for treatment, so addiction spread like wildfire, to bring even more disastrously dangerous drugs, to an unsuspecting society, chasing an addiction which is incurable, based on the concoctions which morphed to over take these poor people, both black and white alike.

These are TRUTH PEOPLE, pay attention, stop following the Jim Crow Mentality, of "slap down a minority" and pay attention to the reality, of how the poor whites, working poor whites, women and minorities have been slapped down by right wing polices and programming.
Right wingers are duped by Republican, because they always think, Republican are talking about minorities as being abusers, but if the Right Winger People pay attention, they'd find it is as much about them as it is about minorities, in what Right Winger Republican systems want to take away and deny.

52 YEAR AGO, Martin Luther King Jr, tried to explain these things to white people, but they were unable to hear and would not listen, they were too hung up on trying to push some delusion of white superiority and segregation, until they could not learn. Still today, its so many that still have not learn and then others who don't care to learn, while they wallow in barely making it, or swimming in "debt", to pretend they are doing well, and less than six weeks after a job loss, they wake up and find out how far they are behind, when the merchants demand their goods back, and lenders demand payment, or the end result is their credit rating is lowered, then and only then do they wake up to realize how poor they are, and the first thing they have been taught is to blame minorities.
Because Jim Crow grooming, taught them to NEVER BLAME A WHITE MAN.

IT'S PURELY INSANE.

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Old 08-17-2016, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Bottom line: Trump's spiel, delivered safely from a 95% white town 25 miles from Milwaukee, was that blacks have it too easy, too many privileges and support programs, and he is going to show them tough love.
That's not what was said at all. Obviously you didn't read or listen to his speech.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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[quote=MTAtech;45162866]Samantha Bee skewers Trump over his non-sense law and order stance:

There is nothing liberals hate more than law and order. Unless it's self defense or national defense.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 11:35 AM
 
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Republican have a problem with learning..... why is it that's always the issue with them??? They certainly have issue with paying attention and being led by selective amnesia, to the point they forge ahead, unaware .
 
Old 08-17-2016, 11:37 AM
 
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Seems it was one of the best speeches in history according to this unbiased source

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/s...63957156868096
 
Old 08-17-2016, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I heard snippets of his speech and thought "we need more of that"
This is the problem. We hear Trump and think that's what blacks like to hear. Not so. They can see the urban decay. They know who their mayors and representatives are. They also don't see illegals compete for their jobs because they don't want those jobs to begin with. They appreciate the financial goodies that have come their way and correctly fear losing them with the Republicans. On top of that they heard Trump talk about crime but they hear him as attacking blacks for committing crimes.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This is the problem. We hear Trump and think that's what blacks like to hear. Not so. They can see the urban decay. They know who their mayors and representatives are. They also don't see illegals compete for their jobs because they don't want those jobs to begin with. They appreciate the financial goodies that have come their way and correctly fear losing them with the Republicans. On top of that they heard Trump talk about crime but they hear him as attacking blacks for committing crimes.
Yet black folks have trouble with Trump because he was a birther and went on a insane witch hunt for the first black President's birth certificate?

How about in 1973, when the United States Department of Justice went to court with a discrimination complaint against Trump for not renting to blacks?

Is Donald Trump a Racist? Here's What His Record Shows

Nothing like having a white bigot lecturing blacks on how he is going to fix their lives in front of a room full of whites only!

 
Old 08-17-2016, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Doesn't matter. You turn on the TV this morning and they manage to find something wrong with it. Right off the bat the criticism was why he gave the speech to an all white audience. Nothing else that he said mattered. I commend his effort for pointing out what Democrats have brought to inner cities. Somehow it doesn't register. Its been tried before.
How would we know who was in the audience. They never show them.

Here's his speech. Skip to 2:58 mark.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErO2UwbrC6I
 
Old 08-17-2016, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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This was so courageous of Trump. Go to a white neighborhood and tell blacks that they are not smart enough to make political decisions for themselves and that he alone can do that for them.
Worse yet, he was two counties north of Milwaukee - in a rural town of 31,000 whites. I did listen to the speech and couldn't get past the continual references to Milwaukee and crime when he was speaking in West Bend which is nowhere near Milwaukee, isn't even a "suburb" - and wondered why the heck he kept talking about Milwaukee issues in the City of West Bend. You have to be from WI and this area to understand how irrelevant he sounded. He may as well have been on Mars. It was laughable. Red meat to the choir? Oh, yes. Any relevance whatsoever to the black community in Milwaukee? None.

Even West Bend residents were wondering. This, from our local paper, today:
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The crowd that packed the Washington County Fair Park & Conference Center appreciated Trump's message on law and order. But his emphasis on Milwaukee fell flat with some.

"People up here don't really care about what's going on in Milwaukee," said Jared Gagnon-Palick of West Bend, as he stopped to buy a Trump button in the parking lot after the rally.

"I grew up in Milwaukee, and I moved here to get away from all the crime with three little kids," he said.


Trump courts black voters in West Bend speech
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Republicans are so two faced when it comes to policies regarding the black community. Here is Trump supporter Scott Walker's true record on "helping" African-Americans in Wisconsin:

Scott Walker's record
Scott Walker got an extreme distaste for blacks when he was County Executive for Milwaukee County - which is where most of the blacks live.

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He was invited to and declined to attend the NAACP and National Association of Black Journalist. How can you give a speach about inner city issues and the plight of black people to an all whit audience? How insincere is that ?
And two counties away from where the problem exists. I'm still shaking my head at the ridiculousness of it. And, so are our local talk radio people - and those at the West Bend rally.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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This is the problem. We hear Trump and think that's what blacks like to hear. Not so. They can see the urban decay. They know who their mayors and representatives are. They also don't see illegals compete for their jobs because they don't want those jobs to begin with. They appreciate the financial goodies that have come their way and correctly fear losing them with the Republicans. On top of that they heard Trump talk about crime but they hear him as attacking blacks for committing crimes.
He told them he was speaking to the inner city people who want safe neighborhoods, good schools and those blue collar jobs he wants to bring back. He told them as long as Clinton was in charge nothing would change because she kisses teacher union butt (my words, not his), she's really for TPP and NAFTA and she's against the police. He said cities don't need less police. They need more police so that when the elderly and children are out, they don't have to worry about drug dealers and gang bangers (again, not a direct quote).
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