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Old 08-18-2016, 11:34 AM
 
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at the same time i think you clinton people should tamper down expectations.

clinton is no obama.

obama is charismatic, smooth, and people are naturally drawn to him.

clinton is none of that.

i lean left and still go back to watching debate videos of trump because he's so entertaining.

i agree he's an idiot, but he has personality and charisma where clinton doesnt.
But she is a woman, white, more moderate, more hawkish, married to a popular former President . . . . Those are viewed positively by a good chunk of our population. Obama will be campaigning hard for her, too. So I am not sure what the "net" would be.

Mick
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

She is up by way more than 4. RCP has it as +5.8 for Clinton. If we take out LA Times (covered extensively in another thread) it's +6.8 with many individual polls having her at +8 or +9. Still, the overall national doesn't matter.

Even if Trump won every state that is still considered a toss up he still wouldn't have enough to win...

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election Maps - Race Changes
Did you miss the thread title? I said the last 5 polls. Nice strategy of taking away polls that don't suit your narrative.
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:51 AM
 
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at the same time i think you clinton people should tamper down expectations.

clinton is no obama.

obama is charismatic, smooth, and people are naturally drawn to him.

clinton is none of that.

i lean left and still go back to watching debate videos of trump because he's so entertaining.

i agree he's an idiot, but he has personality and charisma where clinton doesnt.
Yeah, neither was Richard Nixon and he still won.
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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No one is more crooked than Donald Trump.

National polls from the last few days have Hillary up as much as 9 points, and she leads in every battleground state. She has astounding leads in PA, VA, NH, CO, has solid leads in MN, WI, MI, and has 5-pt lead in Florida. She has many ways to win, Trump has virtually none.
Most crooked, no ground game, no TV ads, potential nuclear destruction....4 point race. Trump overachieving.
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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Did you miss the thread title? I said the last 5 polls. Nice strategy of taking away polls that don't suit your narrative.
Which is pretty much what you are doing yourself. Cherry picking the polls that suit you while ignoring the rest.
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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Most crooked, no ground game, no TV ads, potential nuclear destruction....4 point race. Trump overachieving.
Uh yeah, you keep telling yourself that there bud. Hope it's great comfort to you if he loses though.
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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Which is pretty much what you are doing yourself. Cherry picking the polls that suit you while ignoring the rest.
Cherry picking? I simply looked at the 5 most recent polls. If polls are a snapshot in time....why not?
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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Say's who?
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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Uh yeah, you keep telling yourself that there bud. Hope it's great comfort to you if he loses though.
I think most Trump fans are just happy that Hillary happens to be the anti-establishment opponent. She's probably the only chance that a candidate like Trump has to win.
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:58 AM
 
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We are making the assumption Trump supporters understand the Electoral College. They don't.
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