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Old 08-21-2016, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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This...and at this point, it remains Trump. And a vote for Trump is a double vote for me:

1 vote against Hillary
1 vote against the RINOs that still inhabit the GOP.

Hell with all of those people. GTFO.
Isn't Trump one of these RINOs based on his historic stances on the polices?
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Old 08-21-2016, 12:52 PM
 
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You're from one of the indigenous north or south american tribes?

Hint: the founders WERE invaders.
Sorry but that argument doesnt fly given the founders also believed in a smaller, almost non existent government.. You cant argue that we need to expand the size of the federal government, into things like more welfare, and medical (ACA) and then cite the founding fathers beliefs as some sort of role model on how we should be.
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Old 08-21-2016, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Isn't Trump one of these RINOs based on his historic stances on the polices?
His historic stance make him more of a democrat than a RINO. Honestly he has been left of (H) Clinton for the most part. Leopards don't change their spots.
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Old 08-21-2016, 12:55 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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His historic stance make him more of a democrat than a RINO. Honestly he has been left of (H) Clinton for the most part. Leopards don't change their spots.
That is why many Republicans think of Trump as a Democrat in Republican clothing.

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Old 08-21-2016, 12:56 PM
 
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Isn't Trump one of these RINOs based on his historic stances on the polices?
yes he is, which is why he has huge crossover appeal..

he supports among other things, tariffs and protectionism, so his policies should reach out to Sanders supporters for example..
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Old 08-21-2016, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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That is why many Republicans think of Trump as a Democrat in Republican clothing.

Or a RINO. Republican In Name Only is a pejorative term used by conservative members of the Republican Party of the United States to describe Republicans whose political views or actions they consider insufficiently conservative.
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Old 08-21-2016, 01:20 PM
 
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goodness no

the policy decisions of the last 8 years have been a disaster and Hillary had some hand in them. What a mess.

I will vote for Donald Trump and see him as a better choice than Hillary. no Switching
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Old 08-21-2016, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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yes he is, which is why he has huge crossover appeal..

he supports among other things, tariffs and protectionism, so his policies should reach out to Sanders supporters for example..
In a way but on other key issues to Sanders voters, I don't think he would have that appeal. Civil rights, I don't see Donnie taking kindly to BLM and instead is taking the Nixon dog-whistle "law & order" approach. Maybe that's just me though...
Donald Trump on the Issues
Bernie Sanders on the Issues
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Old 08-21-2016, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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The cost could be 100 times what they estimate and STILL hold an economic benefit to the US and especially the middle class.

What do you think NOT having a fence costs?

I find it odd that the left wines about the cost of a wall, while they run around pushing trillion dollar stimulus bills and trillion dollar ACA bills which cant be paid for, much of which is because of these very individuals..
Not here to discuss the benefits of the Wall, just refuting your assertion that the race card is the only plausible reason to oppose the Wall.
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Old 08-21-2016, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Hint: Even the Indians' ancestors came from someplace else---that someplace else was Asia. When the "founders" came here, there was no country, thus no immigration laws to break.

I'm sure that you are doing your part and have invited several illegal aliens to live in your house rent free.
Yes, we're all invaders here - I don't dispute that in the least.

But whatever the founders intended, they did not intend to bar the door after themselves.
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