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Old 08-28-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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Debate prep: Hillary loads up on facts, Trump loads up on zingers

"Clinton is reportedly devouring policy and opposition research, and rehearsing like crazy to get ready.

Overall, the Clinton Team says that Hillary is approaching the debates like a series of job interviews with the American electorate, in which she should come across as the sober and serious alternative to Trump, and so she’s hyper-preparing accordingly.

Trump, on the other hand, has no official debate team, and is apparently skipping the policy prep and rehearsals so he can rely on his natural talents and showmanship. What preparation he is doing, at least right now, consists of hosting Sunday get-togethers with friends, advisors, and family to test pitches and zingers over cheeseburgers and soda.

Trump Will Wing Debates, While Clinton Does Her Homework
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Old 08-28-2016, 12:28 PM
 
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She has to rehearsing like crazy to get ready. She doesn't know who she is or what side of the issues she will be on without enormous preparation.

She should come across as the sober and serious. That in itself will be a refreshing change. If she doesn't come across drunk on power and money that will be an accomplishment.
She needs extreme preparation to transform into the victimized, hot sauce carrying, grandma who has rented out the Lincoln and would sell the W.H. to the highest bidder.

She will be scripted and prepared to divert attention away from the questions ask like she always does. Then people will be free to ask themselves like they always do. Why didn't she answer the question and/or why did she have to lie again ?
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Old 08-28-2016, 12:29 PM
 
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Hillary and facts never belong in the same sentence.
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Old 08-28-2016, 12:30 PM
 
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There is a saying in law school:
"When you present your case before the judge (in this case, the people),
If you have the truth, pound the truth.
If you have the facts, pound the facts.
If you have nothing, pound the table."
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Old 08-28-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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Mr. Trump. What is your position on global warming?

It's a fraud. I'm really rich. My jet goes everywhere. I look out the windows and see snow after it's snowed. The Mexicans come here for our snow. I'm gonna build a wall to keep American snow for Americans. Hillary wants to give our snow away. I'll keep all our snow. We'll have so much snow and it will be beautiful. Only I can keep the snow. Vote for me because I'll have lots of snow and what the hell do you have to lose? I could shoot a gun in the middle of a snowstorm in Times Square and not lose voters. If the bullet ricochets and kills someone I'll get on Twitter immediately because black people love me.
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Old 08-28-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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Frankly, it's probably not a bad strategy for Trump.

She's a wonk and he's a guy who is ignorant. Not stupid, but ignorant - he is uninterested in things that don't involved getting attention, making money and getting laid. He might as well play to his strengths and hope that he somehow exceeds the incredibly low expectations that people have for him.

If he does that, he can potentially win the news cycle around the debates even if he gets destroyed on substance. This isn't likely to be a winning strategy. But it may be the least-bad option he has.

But all that assumes he uses the debates as a leverage to winning the election. Personally, I have my doubts. The raging narcissist within him probably can't resist using the spotlight of the debates to be the rodeo clown that he is accustomed to being. So my guess is that he just goes for laughs, ratings, whatever he knows will dominate the news no matter how negatively so that he can bask in the glow of attention.

He'll then proclaim that he won, the Trumplings will gullibly believe it, and the other 2/3rds of the country will just roll its collective eyes.
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Old 08-28-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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The debate format favors facts and explaining policies.

Some questions from the 2012 debate:

LEHRER: What are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs?
Each of you have two minutes to start.

LEHRER: Mr. President, please respond directly to what the governor just said about trickle-down -- his trick-down approach, as he said yours is.

LEHER: what are the differences between the two of you as to how you would go about tackling the deficit problem in this country?

LEHRER: Governor, what about Simpson-Bowles? Do you support Simpson-Bowles?

LEHRER: All right? All right. This is segment three, the economy. Entitlements. First -- first answer goes to you, two minutes, Mr. President. Do you see a major difference between the two of you on Social Security?

LEHRER: Do you want to repeal Dodd-Frank?
....
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Old 08-28-2016, 12:50 PM
 
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There is a saying in law school:
"When you present your case before the judge (in this case, the people),
If you have the truth, pound the truth.
If you have the facts, pound the facts.
If you have nothing, pound the table."
When you have nothing, and you are being exposed for your wrongdoing, blame it all on the right wing conspiracy.
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Old 08-28-2016, 01:09 PM
 
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She has to rehearsing like crazy to get ready. She doesn't know who she is or what side of the issues she will be on without enormous preparation.

She should come across as the sober and serious. That in itself will be a refreshing change. If she doesn't come across drunk on power and money that will be an accomplishment.
She needs extreme preparation to transform into the victimized, hot sauce carrying, grandma who has rented out the Lincoln and would sell the W.H. to the highest bidder.

She will be scripted and prepared to divert attention away from the questions ask like she always does. Then people will be free to ask themselves like they always do. Why didn't she answer the question and/or why did she have to lie again ?
Trump is too wise and cunning to let Hillary run all over him with the facts. She may try to take control in the traditional debate style. But just when she thinks the upperhand has been reached, watch for Trump to throw zinger after zinger in response. His plan is to throw Hillary off her message any chance he gets.

In many ways, it is easier for Trump in the debates. As Hillary commits to lofty political tones which will come across as condescending , Trump will play the every man sick and tired of professional political speak. Do not rule Trump out. Bear in mind he beat out of the best debaters around in the form of Ted Cruz in the nomination debates. All in all if Trump can stay focused and not be drawn into personal insults against Hillary he could come out on top.

Trump may very well roar back in these debates. What will he pull out from his bag of tricks ?. Hillary thinks she has all angles covered , although Trump could frustrate her and outfox her at every turn.
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Old 08-28-2016, 01:43 PM
 
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The funny thing is :

The after debate, debate is generally more interesting. I'st where the game is won about what was said and what it means.
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