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Old 08-30-2016, 07:54 PM
 
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so if this is true, why is there this campaign against trump and being close to the 'button'? if he's going to have a hard time getting anything done, why are his detractors acting as if he's going to be able to snap his fingers and make changes?
Trump can do lots of damage shooting off his mouth, insulting allies, and engaging in petty personal vendettas while the country flounders. None of that takes a plan.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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And Hillary is a punishment we don't deserve.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:28 PM
 
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many of us don't think much of Trump - it's close to hate - he's earned our disdain - he's picked up a few tips from his Hitler-readings.....he's not genocidal, but he's got some ideas and beliefs that should alarm us all including flippant use of nuclear weapons......and his idolizing Putin and other dictators of the world.

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I must have missed his use of nuclear weapons.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:48 PM
 
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As much as I dislike Trump, comparisons to Hitler are a) overdone and b) way off base.

If you google, it seems that both Bush and Obama have had their fair share of "I hate him because he is the next Hitler" and clearly those aren't true. They are both very much disliked, but not nearly comparable to someone that tortured, starved, enslaved, and conducted mass medical "experiments" on millions of people and presided over their executions/deaths. I think its beyond irresponsible to compare the two, and it goes a long way in minimizing what Hitler actually did, but that is how people think they are going to score political points every few years, its both disrespectful and dangerous.
Who was Hitler compared to before he became THE Hitler? How many people thought, again and again, that what would eventually happen would never happen? How many people believed that he would start WWII and engage in genocide in the early-mid 1930s? The point is not to say that Trump is exactly like Hitler, because he isn't exactly like him obviously. It's only that some parallels in their rise can be found pretty easily, along with other parallels in the type of rhetoric they choose (and the type of people he attracts). In the end, Trump doesn't need to be Hitler to be disastrous to the US and the world. His campaign has already been incredibly toxic to the national discourse, and that's not going to go away anytime soon. In fact, I think it's going to get a lot worse, regardless of the election's outcome, but especially if he wins. Just how far things go... well, as the title says- the risk isn't worth taking.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:52 PM
 
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I won't vote for him but Hillary worries me far more than Trump.
There's literally no way that she would be worse.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:56 PM
 
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There's literally no way that she would be worse.
For who, Mexicans?
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:57 PM
 
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Their appeal to populism is the only similarity that I can see. I haven't had to watch a Hitler speech since HS though.

But my point is Hitler knew what he wanted to do, and he was determined to unify Germany in order to accomplish his goals. Trump, not so much.

You might have to go back to FDR or JFK to find anyone remotely similar to Hitler in the USA. Obama has some similarity and maybe Reagan too, but 1930's Germany was just so vastly different than the USA is that the politicians tend to reflect that.
Here's the thing though, if he really has no plan, that makes him even more dangerous, because there is no predictability. If he's totally open to embracing white nationalism and basically the worst of humanity if it's a means to an end already, who is to say that he won't embrace something even worse than that if it furthers whatever he happens to want in the moment and with the full weight of the US government behind him?


How in the holy hell were JFK or FDR like Hitler?
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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I don't think Trump is a nazi. But if a nazi was handing out pamphlets he'd probably take one.
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:00 PM
 
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Actually, it might be good if trump were to embrace the Hitler analogy for his campaign. After all, Hitler was successful at getting the country organized in the direction he wanted it to go, instituted a plan for dealing with the problem of having people that he didn't want in his country, and successfully took over neighboring countries. That the rest of the world didn't like what he did, and ended up winning the resulting war shouldn't take away the successes that Hitler had. He promised to make Germany great again and he did it, right?
I hope this is sarcasm.
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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For who, Mexicans?
For anyone, anywhere. There is no reality in which Clinton can be painted as equal or worse than Trump, and all those people who try- there are obviously many- are either intellectually dishonest or morally bankrupt.
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