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Old 09-09-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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Have to think Trump might be in hoc to some Russian billionaires. He is after all the king of debt.
Using the same flawed logic :

The country is in debt to China and Obama didn't get any respect when he landed there.

 
Old 09-09-2016, 01:25 PM
 
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Hitler was a very strong leader of his country. So was Stalin. What's the point, that Obama should be more like Hitler or Stalin?
Maybe Obama should try being less like them and stop acting like a dictator with his E.O. and live up to his responsibility and enforce the laws.
 
Old 09-09-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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It might be true but it is still not something that needed to be said: damn he has to watch his mouth.
Too bad he takes that mouth everywhere he goes. Look at the mess he created in Mexico. Already one guy has had to resign over his visit. And Mexico is one of our allies!!
 
Old 09-09-2016, 01:32 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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They are trying to spin this as a flub for Trump when they don't realize the majority think he spoke the truth and slammed both the Obama administration and Hillarys stint as SoS.
 
Old 09-09-2016, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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They are trying to spin this as a flub for Trump when they don't realize the majority think he spoke the truth and slammed both the Obama administration and Hillarys stint as SoS.
The majority of Trump supporters, sure. The majority of Americans, nope.
 
Old 09-09-2016, 01:35 PM
 
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Hitler was a very strong leader of his country. So was Stalin. What's the point, that Obama should be more like Hitler or Stalin?
You can also be a strong leader without being a dictator or fascist. You realize that right?
 
Old 09-09-2016, 01:42 PM
 
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Let's see, KGB Lt. Col. Putin, 16 years' veteran - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin


"KGB career


Putin in KGB uniform, c. 1980




"In 1975, Putin joined the KGB, and trained at the 401st KGB school in Okhta, Leningrad (now Saint Petersburg). After training, Putin worked in the Second Chief Directorate (counter-intelligence), before he was transferred to the First Chief Directorate, where he monitored foreigners and consular officials in Leningrad.[37][38]

"From 1985 to 1990, Putin served in Dresden, East Germany,[39] using a cover identity as a translator.[40]

"According to Putin's official biography, during the Fall of the Berlin Wall that began on 9 November 1989, he burned KGB files to prevent demonstrators from obtaining them.[41]

"After the collapse of the Communist East German government, Putin returned to Leningrad, where in June 1991, he worked with the International Affairs section of Leningrad State University, reporting to Vice-Rector Yuriy Molchanov.[38] There, Putin looked for new KGB recruits, watched the student body, and renewed his friendship with his former professor, Anatoly Sobchak, the Mayor of Leningrad.[42]

"Putin resigned with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel on 20 August 1991,[42]"

(My emphasis - more @ the URL)

Counter-intelligence, watching foreigners & consular officials, & students. Basically, looking for & plugging leaks (typically internal exile, long imprisonment, death, more recently referral to mental institutes), recruiting sources (honeypots, blackmail, drug or alcohol problems, etc.) or spotting likely agent prospects & keeping an eye on official USSR guest students - possible future cadre.

Yah, this is the leadership guy, who likely moons for the bad ol' days when the USSR was a recognized power, if never truly a superpower. He spent a lot of time in the organs. & of course, the Soviet notion of leadership was the knock on the door in the middle of the night, a trial (if you were lucky, a Makarov to the back of the neck if you weren't) - internal exile to Siberia, a short, brutal life @ hard labor.

But I'll bet he has a solid grasp on how to convert people to the Silent Majority.
There is nothing in your rant and bio to dispute he is a strong leader. He didn't rise through the ranks and get attention for being weak. No one is saying he is a great guy in a great system. This may be the same kind of explanation why weak minded liberals can't separate radicle Islam from Islam. They can't separate the idea of what a strong leader is from the country he represents. His country might suck and he may be despicable and still be a strong leader.
 
Old 09-09-2016, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Putin....."Who's your daddy?"

Trump...."You are Vladimir, now take off your shirt so I can smell your musky, manly odor"
 
Old 09-09-2016, 01:50 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Hitler was a very strong leader of his country. So was Stalin. What's the point, that Obama should be more like Hitler or Stalin?
No, he'll be less like the impotent Obama.
 
Old 09-09-2016, 02:15 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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Kind of mind-boggling that people who over and over complain about how they are losing their freedom in America, then turn around and express admiration and yearning for a leader like Putin.
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