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Old 09-20-2016, 06:40 AM
 
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Originally Posted by dewbo2903 View Post
trump is a democrat. his supporters are too stupid to understand it though.

look at his childcare proposal that he wants to be pushed through. same thing sanders would be going for.
Who cares about D or R, people are voting for what he is saying. Do you really think conservative voters are against making child care affordable? The politicians have been against it to protect big business and their donors. None of my friends are having kids bc of how expensive it is. His policy is really about encouraging poor and middle class millennials to have families.

 
Old 09-20-2016, 06:50 AM
 
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Let me guess. All the Trump cultists will be spinning like whirling dervishes trying to justify this in their own minds. It's because Bush is senile; it's because he's not a "real Republican" and on and on and on. A conspiracy between the Bushes and the Clintons? Yeah THAT'S it. Anything to avoid looking too hard at the reality that their Messiah is so far out in looneytoon land that even the Republican stalwarts are willing to vote for Hillary Clinton.
 
Old 09-20-2016, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Who cares about D or R, people are voting for what he is saying. Do you really think conservative voters are against making child care affordable? The politicians have been against it to protect big business and their donors. None of my friends are having kids bc of how expensive it is. His policy is really about encouraging poor and middle class millennials to have families.
Both parties are so similar in a lot of ways. My preference is R, but only one other candidate that Trump beat out would have suited me during the Primaries, but toward the end, even he was losing my favor. I am still not totally sure about Trump, but he is the best available out of who is left.

Your statement about people not having kids may be true as well. Long term, if the economy gets better, we could sure use more people working and supporting Social Security.
 
Old 09-20-2016, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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LOL, a Kennedy claims he is going to vote for Hillary. I wonder if Clinton has any relatives we might ask?
JFK or RFK? Nothing to see here-many Dem voters have been dead for years.
 
Old 09-20-2016, 06:55 AM
 
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Let me guess. All the Trump cultists will be spinning like whirling dervishes trying to justify this in their own minds. It's because Bush is senile; it's because he's not a "real Republican" and on and on and on. A conspiracy between the Bushes and the Clintons? Yeah THAT'S it. Anything to avoid looking too hard at the reality that their Messiah is so far out in looneytoon land that even the Republican stalwarts are willing to vote for Hillary Clinton.


You are trying too hard.

Trump spanked his son JEB. JEB was "supposed" to be the GOP nominee.

Do you think Bush Sr. will be hugs & kisses now?


It's not any more complicated than that.
 
Old 09-20-2016, 07:02 AM
 
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It has nothing to do with Party. You have two things in play (1) vote for "elite", the establishment candidate and (2) sour grapes - I'll get even with you for pushing my baby out of the race.
Yep, this is all you need to know. They are all part of the establishment elite and will vote for their own, regardless of the party, before voting for an outsider. This is what Trump has been running against all along and another endorsement for Trump if you ask me. It doesn't help that Trump smacked Little Jebbie down so forcefully, but that's what had to be done, otherwise you'd be seeing Hillary vs Jeb right now which is basically the same person politically.

Another desperation attempt by the establishment elite that will backfire. We're getting close to assassination level desperation here folks, I think.

Trump 2016!
 
Old 09-20-2016, 07:05 AM
 
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You are trying too hard.

Trump spanked his son JEB. JEB was "supposed" to be the GOP nominee.
Do you think Bush Sr. will be hugs & kisses now?
It's not any more complicated than that.
So how do you explain all of these Republican stalwarts that are voting for Clinton? Just a SHORT list.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

George HW Bush
Former President of the United States

and

Christine Todd Whitman
Former governor of New Jersey

Robert J. Dold
Representative of Illinois

Peter Wehner
Former official in the Reagan and both Bush administration

Ben Sasse
Senator of Nebraska

Tom Coleman
Former representative of Missouri

Carlos M. Gutierrez
President George W. Bush’s commerce secretary

Robert Tuttle
Former ambassador to Britain under George W. Bush

David Durenberger
Former senator of Minnesota

Fred T. Goldberg Jr.
I.R.S. commissioner under President George Bush

Connie Morella
Former representative of Maryland

William K. Reilly
Former Environmental Protection Agency administrator

William D. Ruckelshaus- Former Environmental Protection Agency administrator

Robert D. Blackwill
Former top Iraq adviser on the National Security Council

Eliot A. Cohen
Former State Department counselor

Michael Chertoff
Former secretary of Homeland Security

Patrick M. Cronin
Former assistant administrator of the Agency for International Development

Eric S. Edelman
Former national security adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney

Jim Kolbe
Former representative of Arizona

Gus Coldebella
Former acting general counsel at the Department of Homeland Security

Chester A. Crocker
Assistant secretary of state for African affairs in the Reagan administration

Richard A. Falkenrath
Former deputy homeland security adviser to President George W. Bush

Peter Feaver
National security official in the George W. Bush administration

Richard Fontaine
Former State Department and National Security Council official

Myriah Jordan
Former special assistant to President George W. Bush

Frances Townsend
Former deputy national security adviser under President George W. Bush

Francis Q. Hoang
Former associate counsel to President George W. Bush

Aaron Friedberg
Former deputy national security adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney

Kenneth Adelman
Former director of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency

Frank Lavin
Under secretary of commerce for President George W. Bush; political director in the Reagan White House

Mary Beth Long
Former assistant secretary of defense

James K. Glassman
Former under secretary of state

Richard Miles
Former director for North America, National Security Council

Andrew S. Natsios
Former administrator of the Agency for International Development

Nicholas Rostow
Former legal adviser to the National Security Council

Kori Schake
Former director of defense strategy at the National Security Council

Kristen Silverberg
Former assistant secretary of state

William H. Tobey
Former deputy administrator of the National Nuclear Security Administration

Dov S. Zakheim
Former under secretary of defense

Robert B. Zoellick
Former United States trade representative

Philip D. Zelikow
Former counselor of the State Department

David Gordon
Former director of policy planning at the State Department

Paul Haenle
Former director for China and Taiwan, National Security Council

William Inboden
Former strategic adviser at the National Security Council

David Kramer
Former assistant secretary of state for democracy, human rights and labor

Robert G. Joseph
Former under secretary of state for arms control and international security affairs

Scott W. Muller
Former C.I.A. general counsel

Stephen D. Krasner
Former policy planning director at the State Department

Roger F. Noriega
Former assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs

Roger Zakheim
Former deputy assistant secretary of defense

Paul D. Miller
Former director for Afghanistan and Pakistan, National Security Council

Paul D. Wolfowitz
Former deputy defense secretary

Ken Mehlman
Former White House political director and Republican National Committee chairman

Mel Martinez
Former Florida senator and R.N.C. chairman

Scott Rigell
Representative of Virginia

Charlie Baker
Governor of Massachusett
 
Old 09-20-2016, 08:33 AM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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Well it proves two things. First, while dems will vote for another dem NO MATTER what the candidate says or does, i.e. Marion Barry, at least republicans are showing they have minds of their own.
Second, in the case of the Bushes, Kasich, and Cruz, all it shows is a lack of integrity not to honor your pledge, and a cry baby, I'm taking my ball and going home attitude.

The Bushes will be dead to me if they vote for the evil one.
 
Old 09-20-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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the Kennedys are low......lets pretend the story is true,,,,,,,,Bush Sr. is 92 years old and on his death bed and in very bad health, We don't know his state of mind and the drugs he is taking for his pain and health.

Why would a KENNEDY talk to him and put it on her facebook page their private conversation without the permission of the Bush Camp?....she is not a reporter.


that's like pretending to be Reagan's friend and going to Reagan with his condition in his final years of his life and get him to talk out of context and put it on my facebook page with my picture with him for political motives.....that's low!
 
Old 09-20-2016, 09:03 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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So how do you explain all of these Republican stalwarts that are voting for Clinton? Just a SHORT list..........
"Stalwarts"? Really?

LOL 95% of people couldn't identify 90% of your list.

Doesn't matter much, anyway. I ain't voting for her. I haven't even seen a credible source that says Bush will, either.
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