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Old 09-23-2016, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Get real. Trump benefitted from almost a billion in taxpayer dollars just for his TRUMP projects in Manhattan alone. Then there is New Jersey casinos...and we all know how that turned out, the NJ tax bill problems that his friend (and pet) Chris Christie worked out for him, and then Trump projects (like that gold erection in Las Vegas) going under or dripping with tax money from coast to coast. Trump managed to get a 95% reduction in the taxed value of that thing in Las Vegas as a way to swindle tax payers out of what rightfully should be helping support the community.


Donald Trump: Developer has thrived with government's generosity - Page 2 - latimes
And how many jobs did he actually create? Of course he took ever step he could to increase profits and reduce liability - that is what he did for a living. Most of Bill and Hillary's money came from using taxpayer dollars directly or indirectly.

The point is that Trump is representing the people and Hillary is representing her Kingdom. We have already had eight years of Clinton's, eight years of Obama's, 16 years of Bush's - our Country need a change; we do not need another same old. All you have to do is look at the crowds in the rallies of both camps. Trump has 'regular' people sitting next to him. Hillary hand picks who can even get close and she refuses to let anybody question her because she is more afraid of her own temper.
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:06 PM
 
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That's right, its all about the power and America must break the Clinton standard of Politics. Clinton is violation of USC 18 and is violation with her US Gov/ Disclosure on the usage of servers and classified info.
And, yet, after investigating for a year, the FBI declined to pursue charges. But, internet forum people know so much more about the law than the FBI, right?
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:15 PM
 
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Why not claim that Clinton is illegitimate? Republicans haven't accepted a Democrats as illegitimate since Carter. Before day one, the GOP decided to undermine Obama. The birther movement was clearly about declaring that Obama wasn't a 'real' president.

So, why should the GOP stop now?
Before day one, Democrats sought to undermine Bush.

You are the most naive person I have ever met if you sincerely think that all presidents haven't been undermined in some fashion by political opponents.


Hillary undermined herself with her illegal actions. If you believed in the 99% rhetoric and equal application of rule of law - you would have to call Hillary illegitimate, as it is only her elite special privileges that gave her a free pass.

You can argue that Trump is also a corrupt liar and I would support that argument. You could argue that Trump's corruption and lies also would make him an illegitimate president. However, you can't in good faith and comprehension argue against Hillary being illegitimate and corrosive to what Democrats pretend to stand for due to her own actions.
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Carpinteria
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Just as some Democrats said that George W. Bush was an illegitimate president due to the whole Florida fiasco...Hillary would be an illegitimate president and her presidency would be a cancer that would eat away at the country's very core.

Every semi-informed person knows deep down, whether or not they will admit it, that Hillary broke the law and she was given special privileges as a political elite. Any average Joe or average Jill would have been in hot water and in the courtroom not on the campaign trail.

It should have been Bernie, the non-criminal, as the Democratic nominee.

Also that the DNC bent over backwards to assist her against Bernie.

Her presidency will be a shining beacon of corruption and the rule of 0.00001%ers that are above the law.
In your opinion, LOL
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:35 PM
 
Location: FL
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I see the Clinton Mafia is trying to change the truth once again. Even Comey said she broke the law. One cannot deny that. That he was bought and paid for does not change what he said. To continue to make inane comments about it being some sort of right wing conspiracy is beyond stupid; in brain dead territory.
Where in his report did he say that?
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:37 PM
 
Location: FL
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Only people who think Breitbart, Gateway Pundit and all the rest of the RWNJosphere are legitimate news sources believe any of this. The rest of the country, and the world, knows better.

Just more GOPer desperation. I can tell how bad things are getting by the volume of anti-Hillary threads created in the past few days.
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:44 PM
 
Location: FL
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If you were honest and you clearly aren't, you would have that opinion about both of them.

Hillary would be going through the court system right now if we weren't half Banana Republic.

Her presidency will be a cancer as every semi-informed person knows that she blatantly violated laws to keep her own secrets safer while jeopardizing national secrets.
You forgot to mention that Trump is going through the court system.


A federal lawsuit accusing Donald Trump of raping a 13-year-old girl during a party hosted by convicted pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein 20 years ago in New York is still in the early stages. A pre-trial conference that was scheduled for September 9 was recently pushed back to October.
It is not likely that the Republican presidential candidate will have to appear in court for the October 14 conference, which typically only involve attorneys and the judge in the case. The lawsuit was initially filed in April, but was then dismissed for procedural reasons. It was re-filed in June, pseudonymously by Jane Doe.
Donald Trump Rape Lawsuit: When Is the Next Court Date? | Heavy.com
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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You really think that she did not do anything wrong? I think as Cummings you are surely pretending.


She disqualified herself by continually mishandling sensitive and classified info and allowing others without proper clearance to access it and review it.
Wrong. There is no proof of that, and the only thing is using a non govt. server. She broke protocols. N policy but not laws . The receiving end of those who wrote and read those emails be in jail - had it been what the claim is. People don't have a clue how classified secret and top is even handled
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:57 PM
 
Location: U.S.
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Exclamation Is Hillary still corrupt?

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Let's put it this way to make it perfectly clear, Clinton testified before a hostile House Committee on Benghazi for 12 hours and the committee couldn't come up with one misdeed of Clinton's. It isn't that there was nothing to charge her with; indict her; form a grand jury or any of the like. They couldn't find anything that she actually did improperly.

Now, we know that Trump is using is mouth to accuse Clinton of all kinds of things that just aren't true but a political opponent making invented charges isn't anyone's definition of crime. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Trump we are finding out is guilty of pay-for-play, just what he accused Clinton of being guilty of (without evidence.)
Hillary isn't innocent. Her email arrangement was illegal and FBI director Comey said Hillary didn't intentionally give hackers our top secret emails so somehow he decided not to seek prosecution.

Even FBI director Comey never said Hillary was innocent. Far from that word. Hillary acted with extreme reckless disregard for national secrets. This issue will surely come up in the debates how Hillary lost more U.S. Secrets than Snowdon stole.
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:07 PM
 
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Trump is the one who needs to worry. He has been doing business with Russia, China and who knows where else. Why doesn't he get his clothing line made in the US if he is such a patriot?
Trump is going to let is family run his investments? Something sounds like a conflict of interest to me. His sons are as cocky as the father. No one in the family has ever worked for a paycheck. How can they understand what it feels like to be a regular person? Trump needs to show his taxes. He isn't special. They all do it....
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