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Old 09-28-2016, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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I have a much bigger wish.....that anyone, I mean ANYONE, wins the office of presidency over hil.

And when I say anyone, that includes:

1.) A rock
2.) A pile of dirt
3.) Rotting garbage
4.) etc.
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Old 09-28-2016, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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your first sentence is a dem talking point. they want you to believe both candidates are bad, that's the only way they win. if god forbid you start to think trump is actually halfway decent, she gets buried.
Listen kid I am a old man and I have been voting when you were in diapers holding a yuuge one and I know a carnival barker when I see one. Though I lean right besides a couple of issues it is not enough to make me want to go to the polls and vote for Trump. You would never convince me even if we were both giving eternal life, give it up I will never board the Trump train.
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Old 09-28-2016, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Listen kid I am a old man and I have been voting when you were in diapers holding a yuuge one and I know a carnival barker when I see one. Though I lean right besides a couple of issues it is not enough to make me want to go to the polls and vote for Trump. You would never convince me even if we were both giving eternal life, give it up I will never board the Trump train.
So who are you voting for "old man"? Guessing you think hil the establishment type we've seen over and over and over again is going to save the day? Please tell me no. With age comes wisdom I heard. Let's see what those years have taught you.

And if you've been around so long, can you explain to me why your generation/the majority of them have been voting for such bought and sold inept hacks in all these decades who have our country at almost 20 trillion in debt? With a bunch of unsolved issues/problems that keep getting kicked down the road? People that keep getting elected that have created such a divided nation, especially the current clown circus that created that environment? Your hands clean of all this at the voting booth?
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Old 09-28-2016, 09:16 PM
 
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So who are you voting for "old man"? Guessing you think hil the establishment type we've seen over and over and over again is going to save the day? Please tell me no. With age comes wisdom I heard. Let's see what those years have taught you.

And if you've been around so long, can you explain to me why your generation/the majority of them have been voting for such bought and sold inept hacks in all these decades who have our country at almost 20 trillion in debt? With a bunch of unsolved issues/problems that keep getting kicked down the road? People that keep getting elected that have created such a divided nation, especially the current clown circus that created that environment? Your hands clean of all this at the voting booth?
I'm 56, so maybe that's considered old to some, not to others.

I am honestly riding the fence right now. In the beginning I jumped on the Trump train, but have since come back to the fence. As of yet I have not hopped on the Clinton train. I'm a registered independent in MA who leans Democratic. With Trump I'm one of those fish in the water who will strike at the bait, be reeled in for a bit, and then I hop off. I'll take another bite, and repeat the whole process. Thus far Clinton keeps on throwing me chum and I'm not biting. I can't seem to get myself to jump on the democratic leaning train, I just can't. But I disagree with a lot of the Republican platform. I'm trapped. And whether I trust Trump or not is irrelevant, because I absolutely don't trust Clinton.
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Old 09-28-2016, 09:44 PM
 
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The problem with fast forwarding through the election is one of these two will win. Better to hope that some country nukes Washington DC following the inauguration.
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Old 09-28-2016, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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So who are you voting for "old man"? Guessing you think hil the establishment type we've seen over and over and over again is going to save the day? Please tell me no. With age comes wisdom I heard. Let's see what those years have taught you.

And if you've been around so long, can you explain to me why your generation/the majority of them have been voting for such bought and sold inept hacks in all these decades who have our country at almost 20 trillion in debt? With a bunch of unsolved issues/problems that keep getting kicked down the road? People that keep getting elected that have created such a divided nation, especially the current clown circus that created that environment? Your hands clean of all this at the voting booth?
Yep, my hands are clean. All the people I have voted for at the federal level have lost and on some years the choices were so bad I stayed home. My list for presidential candidates that lost includes Buchanan,Perot, Baldwin and Gary Johnson. Plus I am a Ron Paul supporter so I have been anti establishment before it was cool.

There is nothing anti establishment about Trump when he openly admits that he has greased the palms of leaders to get what he wants. How can you see he is anti establishment when he is a major player in the game?

This election cycle I am trying to force myself to go to the polls and vote Johnson/Weld only for the fact if they get enough votes the LP will get federal matching funds. My rep is {R} Bob Gibbs and I would never vote for him, the senate race is Strickland {D} against Portman {R} and I would never inflict either of those douche bags on the rest of the country.

In my life time at the state level finally in 2014 2 candidates I voted for won, Gov Kasich and my state rep Ruhl. They received my vote because they earned it, they said they were fiscal conservatives and their record proved it.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:00 PM
 
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That thread that was posted saying EXPECT VIOLENCE could not be more true for this election!!

Its getting worse and worse.......
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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your first sentence is a dem talking point. they want you to believe both candidates are bad, that's the only way they win. if god forbid you start to think trump is actually halfway decent, she gets buried.
For most of us, that would actually require Trump to be half decent. Kind of telling that so many of the negative ads about him have him speaking in his own words, isn't it?
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:25 PM
 
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For most of us, that would actually require Trump to be half decent. Kind of telling that so many of the negative ads about him have him speaking in his own words, isn't it?
if i had 200 million or more in 'free money' to spend on ads, i could make anyone look bad.

don't fall for what you see on television.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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if i had 200 million or more in 'free money' to spend on ads, i could make anyone look bad.

don't fall for what you see on television.
All anyone needs to come to that conclusion is to watch him and read his own words in plain English.
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