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Old 09-30-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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"Instead he shamed her in front of a bunch of people and she's not forgotten about it."

Karma has a way of rearing it's ugly head.
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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You are taking her word for it. Her track record does not seem to warrant trust. The video I posted, seems to me that Trump was HELPING her instead of FIRING her.
compared to Trump the con man who lies every 3 minutes
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:16 AM
 
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Her gaining weight was ALL OVER the news before his "press conference". Look it up.
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:20 AM
 
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Instead he shamed her in front of a bunch of people and she's not forgotten about it.
Oh the absolute horror! Only feeble minded people worry about such inane crap. I'm sure there is a safe space somewhere you could retreat to.
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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The truth hurts sometimes. For a beauty queen to respect the commitment she made putting on 60 lbs. isn't going in the direction people expect. She had a contract and didn't live up to it. Denver tent and awning doesn't make a bikini. If she wants to enter a hotdog eating contest, its no big deal.
The fact that Trump was involved in such a backwards thing as a contest that judges women on their weight is part of the issue, though. Plus, it isn't as though Trump simply tried to enforce a contract. He called the woman names because she was overweight. He called her "Miss Housekeeping," which is clearly a racist, derogatory comment.
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:33 AM
 
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The fact that Trump was involved in such a backwards thing as a contest that judges women on their weight is part of the issue, though. Plus, it isn't as though Trump simply tried to enforce a contract. He called the woman names because she was overweight. He called her "Miss Housekeeping," which is clearly a racist, derogatory comment.
He has never admitted to call her that. SHE is the only person who can attest to him saying that. She was asked if anyone else heard that and she said no. The only thing on record, is him helping her save her job and endorsements.
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:34 AM
 
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The fact that Trump was involved in such a backwards thing as a contest that judges women on their weight is part of the issue, though. Plus, it isn't as though Trump simply tried to enforce a contract. He called the woman names because she was overweight. He called her "Miss Housekeeping," which is clearly a racist, derogatory comment.
Quick, find your safe space now!!!!! BTW, what race is housekeeping?
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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Quick, find your safe space now!!!!! BTW, what race is housekeeping?
Housekeeping isn't a race. It's an occupation held by a lot of Hispanic women. The context and intent is obvious.

Btw, I am not personally offended, so I'm not sure why you're telling me to find my safe space. The comment we are discussing is clearly not becoming of a President. If a person told a black person to "go back to the plantation," you would (I assume) understand the context and intent. "Plantation" isn't a race, but the intent of the comment is clear.

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He has never admitted to call her that. SHE is the only person who can attest to him saying that. She was asked if anyone else heard that and she said no. The only thing on record, is him helping her save her job and endorsements.
While true, the fact that she has had sex on tv or done any of the things listed in the OP shouldn't have any bearing on whether we believe her. It is noteworthy that Trump didn't deny saying such things in the debate.
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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He has never admitted to call her that. SHE is the only person who can attest to him saying that. She was asked if anyone else heard that and she said no. The only thing on record, is him helping her save her job and endorsements.
Trump has also not denied saying those things to her and in fact seems to feel that his comments were justified. This is what Hillary meant about him living in his "own reality". He had not denied any of the things he is accused of saying because he feels that every insult he has ever hurled is justified.

There are ways to handle situations. Insulting and publicly demeaning people isn't the way to do it. If anything, his treatment of Alicia Machado isn't even the most repugnant thing he did or said while running those beauty contests.

Taking it out of the context with his back and forth with Machado this also reeks of being incredibly tone deaf to the electorate. Mocking people for being fat, mocking Latinos, etc. isn't winning him any new supporters. Instead of ignoring the obvious attempts to get him to lose his temper, he dives right in and relishes in the scandal. Not only does he respond to the poke, he keeps the issue alive and front and center in the news.
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Old 09-30-2016, 12:27 PM
 
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You are taking her word for it. Her track record does not seem to warrant trust. The video I posted, seems to me that Trump was HELPING her instead of FIRING her.
Accuracy and the whole story don't matter in a campaign. Once the narrative is set, it's nearly impossible to reverse the trend. Does Trump want to win, or not ? Going on these lengthy diatribes to defend himself is a waste. If he wants to deal with alleged comments he made 20 years ago, leave Machado out of it and quote what Hillary and her mouthpieces said about women.
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