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Old 10-04-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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Questions.

How far to the right of center do you think Jeb and GHWB are? And How far to the left of center do you think Hillary is?
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Old 10-04-2016, 02:56 PM
 
Location: The 719
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NO at this point I have accepted that the media and establishment will try anything and everything to get Hillary elected and destroy Trump. Up until a week ago I was going to vote for Johnson, over the last week I started questioning it, and in the last 2 days I have decided to vote Trump, just because I cannot stand the corruption in the government and the media ignoring it. So they are having an affect, but I have a feeling I am not the only one that they are not going to like the affect they are having.
This.

I think the Bushes and the Clintons make a great marriage.
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Old 10-04-2016, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Spin it however you want, the reality remains that the only living former Presidents of the GOP have explicitly declined to support the nominee of their party. As far as I know, that is unprecedented.
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Old 10-04-2016, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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just a little bit crazy? Do you find the left MSM crowing about how the Bush family are going to vote Hillary just a bit disingenuous given they POUND the Bush family at every turn and to this day blame them for everything bad over the last 12 years?

Of course, if you're into political dynasties and plan on continuing them for the next millennia then I guess you support the dynasty running.
I mean, one royal family has to support the other.....right?
Globalists each and every one. Remember when Jeb gave Hillary an award for her leadership? This was after her incompetence killed people in Benghazi, Russia didn't reset, the Arab Spring went crappola in Egypt and a whole host of other things she did awfully and that was public knowledge at the time. W was calling her his "sister-in-law." UGH!
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Old 10-04-2016, 03:13 PM
 
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Spin it however you want, the reality remains that the only living former Presidents of the GOP have explicitly declined to support the nominee of their party. As far as I know, that is unprecedented.
Here's the spin; the Trump cultists think that those former Presidents and many other prominent Republicans are part of some "globalist" back room plan with Clinton to ensure that the "establishment" stays in control, or similar paranoid whackjobbery.

They just can't stand to face the fact that not only their candidate brings nothing to the table he's a risk to the stability of the Western Hemisphere. Most people would see those endorsements and really step back and ponder the significance. That's why so many people view the Trump movement more like a religion or a cult.
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Old 10-04-2016, 03:17 PM
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If you think Trump won't work to profit his own businesses you are kidding yourself. That whole "blind trust" is the biggest laugh in history. I can see him at one of his restaurants talking to his attorneys and saying "So I told them a blind trust! Hahahahahh!!!! And they bought it! Hahhahahahahah!!!!"
I can't help but wonder how the people who rant and rave about the elite at the same time think that Donald Trump is really going to look out for the interests of the common man. When all his life, his main purpose seems to have been to do what is best for Donald Trump. I can understand not liking Hillary,but to put their faith in him to make their lives better????
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Old 10-04-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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Those who are choosing Trump, demonstrate their absurdity, so, let them run and vote for him. There is little need to try and enlighten ignorance when one has chosen to be and remain being ignorant.
If they have not opened their eyes by now.... then let them go about their merry way. Ignorance has always been known to produce stupidity when it becomes incessant to remain in the spin of ignorance.

Mostly I feel bad for the insult these people have brought unto the image and standard of America. But, it too has revealed how much long term ignorance has cemented cycles of stupidity to be the standard manner and mode of a segment of society. This is now exposed to the world and the world can see the bigotry, the racism and the utter belligerence, has not diminished as much as it was assumed. This will have an impact upon International Relations, as well as this level of ignorance makes the job of Secretary of State more challenged, and it certainly will make the job of the President much more challenged. After all the work President Obama did to try and rebuild diplomacy, and push the image of America as being a progressive and improved nation of human relations. These people have set us back decades by the ignorance they present and the level of belligerent demeanor they demonstrate on a daily basis.

We just spent 7.5 yrs of Republican's acting a fool with their block and tackle everything games, then the madness of the Tea Party and their push of emboldening hate groups and ever anti government faction they could reach, and now we have a system of madness that has morphed into craziness, that not even the Republican Establishment will own it, and the Tea Party has become transitioned into this movement of obsessiveness that it now looks like a re-creation of Hitler talking to the masses and the masses with their heil hitler devotion.


Therefore it is not difficult to understand why President Bush 1st and President Bush 2nd, now want to support Hillary and will not utter a word for Trump, and do all they can to keep him as far from them as possible.
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Old 10-04-2016, 03:22 PM
 
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Poor imitation of my clever allusion. Once again demonstrating the superior intellect of conservatives.
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Captain Lou Albano comes to mind, actually. He looks like Donald without money.

Mick
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Old 10-04-2016, 03:32 PM
 
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Those who are choosing Trump, demonstrate their absurdity, so, let them run and vote for him. There is little need to try and enlighten ignorance when one has chosen to be and remain being ignorant.
If they have not opened their eyes by now.... then let them go about their merry way. Ignorance has always been known to produce stupidity when it becomes incessant to remain in the spin of ignorance.

Mostly I feel bad for the insult these people have brought unto the image and standard of America. But, it too has revealed how much long term ignorance has cemented cycles of stupidity to be the standard manner and mode of a segment of society. This is now exposed to the world and the world can see the bigotry, the racism and the utter belligerence, has not diminished as much as it was assumed. This will have an impact upon International Relations, as well as this level of ignorance makes the job of Secretary of State more challenged, and it certainly will make the job of the President much more challenged. After all the work President Obama did to try and rebuild diplomacy, and push the image of America as being a progressive and improved nation of human relations. These people have set us back decades by the ignorance they present and the level of belligerent demeanor they demonstrate on a daily basis.

We just spent 7.5 yrs of Republican's acting a fool with their block and tackle everything games, then the madness of the Tea Party and their push of emboldening hate groups and ever anti government faction they could reach, and now we have a system of madness that has morphed into craziness, that not even the Republican Establishment will own it, and the Tea Party has become transitioned into this movement of obsessiveness that it now looks like a re-creation of Hitler talking to the masses and the masses with their heil hitler devotion.


Therefore it is not difficult to understand why President Bush 1st and President Bush 2nd, now want to support Hillary and will not utter a word for Trump, and do all they can to keep him as far from them as possible.
Dead on. To tell you the truth I feel the worst for the people out here in the heartland that are voting for Trump. They are the ones that will be hurt most by a Trump administration, especially in Appalachia, like West Virginia and Kentucky which are voting solidly for him. That's because when Trump's fairy tale finally gets revealed to be a con, they will have nothing. He's not going to encourage any industry out there, are you kidding? He is a real estate tycoon.
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Old 10-04-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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I can't help but wonder how the people who rant and rave about the elite at the same time think that Donald Trump is really going to look out for the interests of the common man. When all his life, his main purpose seems to have been to do what is best for Donald Trump. I can understand not liking Hillary,but to put their faith in him to make their lives better????
Exactly, he wants to be remembered as the best president in history, the person who fixed the problems nobody else could. Hillary wants to be remembered as the first female president. That's just as self serving except other than what does she have? Wall street backers to pay back?
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