***National Presidential Polls*** Part IV (Amish, voters, Clinton, cost)

[jacqueg]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

I assume polls are taking into account whether people plan to vote, yes?

Somewhere in the methodology of a particular poll, there should be mention of "likely voters".

[jacqueg]

Originally Posted by mlb

I think McMullin has been underestimated here in Utah.

I think Mormons are repulsed by Trump. Enough Hillary Haters here to sink a ship.

I think McMullin will come in first.

Very interesting if he does.

I know little about him, I've been wondering whether he is ambitious enough and appealing enough to become an organizing nexus for what some folks would call RINOs, and what other folks would call the sanity wing.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by emm74

not saying he'd be the defacto Democrat, just that people can make a meaningful NeverTrump vote there.

Im saying that Clinton telling them to vote for McMullin would make him the defacto Democrat and he would lose some of that never trump vote because there is also a #Neverhillary vote as well.

They like the idea of hurting both, not one over the other especially the ones who are life long republicans who would hate Hillary just as much if not more.

[Fiyero]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

I'm still shocked Virginia is at or close to double digits now for Democrats...like 2 elections ago, Virginia was literally a swing state that Obama and McCain were fighting for. I really do wonder if she can flip Georgia blue. That'll be an interesting state to watch in 12 days. Ivanka and Tiffany Trump were down in Georgia today campaigning...that tells me Georgia is definitely in play and the Trump internals show that.

Clinton's ground game is quite possibly being underestimated by the polls.

You know you're an absolutely horrible candidate when the most hated Democrat ever is close to beating you in a bunch of solid red states.

[Threerun]

Originally Posted by jacqueg

Very interesting if he does.

I know little about him, I've been wondering whether he is ambitious enough and appealing enough to become an organizing nexus for what some folks would call RINOs, and what other folks would call the sanity wing.

I've thought the same thing. Funny to think that Utah could become the epicenter for rebuilding a party.

[mlb]

#MormonMafia:

"If you're not careful," quipped Washington Post commentator Jennifer Rubin, "Mormon Mafia will break into your house ---- fold the laundry and do the dishes."

In our opinion: Why #MormonMafia says more about civility than bigotry | Deseret News

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by Threerun

I've thought the same thing. Funny to think that Utah could become the epicenter for rebuilding a party.

That seems to be the idea. It's curious that now he is nipping at Trumps heels that all the Utah politicians that unendorsed have rendorsed. They are likely afraid of what would happen if he lost.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Saguaro Strategies

Arizona
Clinton 48%
Trump 46%
Johnson 5%
Stein 2%

[jobber123rd]

Originally Posted by bellhead

Republicans lost the governors race in 2014 an off presidential year and several other state wide races.

That was 2013, and yes, the GOP hasn't won a state-wide race in VA since Bob McDonnell was elected governor in 2009. With the 2013 elections, the Democrats gained control of all state-wide elected offices (governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, and the two US senate seats) for the first time in 40 years.

Next year's VA elections will be interesting, as 2013 broke a streak dating back to 1977 of VA electing a governor of the opposing party to the President.

[BajanYankee]

The most accurate poll in the whole entire universe has Clinton leading by 3. There is no disputing this poll (IBD) as many have already noted it is indeed the most accurate poll in the universe. There has been a 2 point shift in Clinton's direction.