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Thomas Eagleton quit in 1972, although that was in early August, not October.
Sure, Pence could 'quit'. He could stop campaigning and state that he is no longer a candidate. But I doubt the Republican Party would go through the Herculean task of trying to fix ballots just to replace him. They could name another placeholder VP candidate in the expectation that Electors would then vote for that person. At any rate, it would be up to the RNC to pick a replacement, and that could be anyone (hard to figure who would want to jump on the Trump train as it barrels towards the cliff, though).
But it doesn't really matter - any ticket in which the running mate is bailing in October is a doomed ticket.
Interestin' scenario--albeit farfetched---Pence Drops out...lightning strikes and Trump wins--by law..if elected VP unable to serve, Speaker of the House is sworn in as VP....So Paul Ryan could be a heartbeat from the Presidency.
Wouldn't place a bet at those odds....but remotely possible?
Well..they were not in a locker room---women were present...or at least close by...and it was 10 years ago..not 15. Trump was 60 years old at the time. Really...this is the maturity he's gained in 60 years?
It's not really the incident..by itself...that's the issue with me. It's the pattern. ...and I can't magic it away by saying "But Hillary _________________!".
Well...He wasn't talking to a woman either, was he. And women "close by" means squat. Tell me you have never heard any man make comments like that. Ten years ago? Whoopee.
You may as well admit it, you would not have been in Trumps corner if he had an endorsement from Jesus. Just shows the desperation that anti-Trumpers are caught in. Never mind the issues, lets focus on sexist comments. Never mind that Hillary lies to you, and tells Wall Street they need to be consulted in financial reform, not the people. Never mind Hillary signed off on selling weapons grade Nuclear material to a company that is tied to Russian Government. Lets focus on what Trump said about sex. No wonder the US is failing all around the world. If Hillary wins, I can spend the next 4 years laughing at you folks, in getting what you asked for, and knew was coming.
Interestin' scenario--albeit farfetched---Pence Drops out...lightning strikes and Trump wins--by law..if elected VP unable to serve, Speaker of the House is sworn in as VP....So Paul Ryan could be a heartbeat from the Presidency.
Wouldn't place a bet at those odds....but remotely possible?
You have a better chance of being struck by a Meteor. Love you guys. Haven't laughed so hard since this election began.
Pence is praying that he'll be the next president when and if Trump bails or gets kicked out of the party.
Trumps supporters are still his supporters, and even the Clinton Media is saying it is. The folks that are bailing are the same ones that where against him to start with, and never where committed to him. But if that makes you happy to think so, knock yourselves out. It isn't over until its over.
He went form relative unknown to being known as 1. the prune-faced guy who wouldn't even defend his running mate at the debate, and now 2. the dammmm fool who has a guy who brags about using his 'star' status to force himself on women as his running mate.
Seems folks didn't have as big an issue with a "President" that used his bigger "Star" status, to commit Adultery, taking advantage of his position. The only "Fools" I see are those who think this is somehow important to the Progress of America.
That's a darned good question. No VP candidate ever has quit in our history.
There's absolutely nothing as precedent to go by with this.
Pence's deeply held religious beliefs are irreconcilable with Trump's latest blowout, and Pence is still a sitting Governor. Given that internal conflict and the fact he still has an office he can go back to, he could well decide sticking with Trump any longer is too much to bear personally, and too big a risk for whatever future political ambitions he may have.
If he bails out, it will sure put another hitch in Trump's get-along, and once more will leave the GOP scrambling and wondering what's next. Quite a few of the members who have taken back their endorsements did so because Trump was damaging their own re-election chances, but some never endorsed him in the first place.
Any way I look at it, Donald is now a heavy chain around his party's neck. I expect he will add another length of chain to their burden tonight in the town hall debate- Clinton has said nothing at all ever since the last tape incident blew up, which means she has some fresh stuff to hit him with herself, in the debate, when the time is perfect.
Trump will never quit. It's not in him. He will be defeated this year because he's driven away so many voters, so the only question left is how bad the defeat will be. Pence's departure could cause a landslide defeat, but so could a lot of other factors.
I bet Pence is kicking himself in the butt now. I do understand why Trump picked someone that was into religion as he himself doesn't have a clue. The debates will be interesting.
Interestin' scenario--albeit farfetched---Pence Drops out...lightning strikes and Trump wins--by law..if elected VP unable to serve, Speaker of the House is sworn in as VP....So Paul Ryan could be a heartbeat from the Presidency.
Wouldn't place a bet at those odds....but remotely possible?
Completely incorrect.
If Pence dropped out and Trump was elected without a running mate, then Electors would simply vote for someone else. If they failed to do so, and there was no Vice President chosen by the Electoral College (ie, if no Vice Presidential candidate got at least 270 Electoral College votes for Vice President) by January 6 (the date that Electoral College votes are officially tabulated in a joint session of Congress), then the selection of the Vice President would devolve to the Senate, who would be limited in their choice to the top two recipients of Electoral College Vice Presidential votes (see Amendment XII). We the Senate for some reason to fail to do that, then the Vice Presidency would simply become vacant at 1 pm EST, January 20, 2017, at which point the (brand new) President would nominate a Vice President, who would then have to be confirmed by both houses of Congress (this is what happened when Vice President Spiro Agnew resigned in 1973 (Nixon nominated House Majority Leader Ford, who was confirmed), and when Vice President Ford ascended to the Presidency in 1974 upon President Nixon's resignation, leaving the Vice President temporarily vacant (Ford nominated former New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller, who was also confirmed). See Amendment XXV, Section 2 for the process of filling Vice Presidential vacancies.
Statutory law provides - as allowed by the Constitution - for the Speaker of the House to ascend to the Presidency if both the Presidency and Vice Presidency are vacant. There is no law providing for any ascension to the Vice Presidency at all.
If Pence dropped out and Trump was elected without a running mate, then Electors would simply vote for someone else. If they failed to do so, and there was no Vice President chosen by the Electoral College (ie, if no Vice Presidential candidate got at least 270 Electoral College votes for Vice President) by January 6 (the date that Electoral College votes are officially tabulated in a joint session of Congress), then the selection of the Vice President would devolve to the Senate, who would be limited in their choice to the top two recipients of Electoral College Vice Presidential votes (see Amendment XII). We the Senate for some reason to fail to do that, then the Vice Presidency would simply become vacant at 1 pm EST, January 20, 2017, at which point the (brand new) President would nominate a Vice President, who would then have to be confirmed by both houses of Congress (this is what happened when Vice President Spiro Agnew resigned in 1973 (Nixon nominated House Majority Leader Ford, who was confirmed), and when Vice President Ford ascended to the Presidency in 1974 upon President Nixon's resignation, leaving the Vice President temporarily vacant (Ford nominated former New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller, who was also confirmed). See Amendment XXV, Section 2 for the process of filling Vice Presidential vacancies.
Statutory law provides - as allowed by the Constitution - for the Speaker of the House to ascend to the Presidency if both the Presidency and Vice Presidency are vacant. There is no law providing for any ascension to the Vice Presidency at all.
Yup..my bad. I thought that the succession of powers provided for the VP. Good catch.
That would be the same 'top party officials' who are being reviled for being part of the establishment that the trumpists want to tear down, right? And, being on the trump ticket would benefit him with them in what way?
Same group yep. When/if Donnie loses-- Pence can say that he(Pence) tried to hold up his end of the stick. Many evangelicals are still sticking with Donnie and Pence is perceived as being one of them and quite probably the reason they do stick around to support.
Should Donnie win, he is Veep. If Donnie goes off the deeper end with continued acting as a spoil teenager, he my not last very long as Pres-- in comes the Veep.
And finally as far as being owed support, remember the collective sigh of relief when Pence was chosen. Someone suggested a reasonably experienced, competent person whether you like his politics or not.
I don't like Pences politics but he actually scares me as a canidate who many repubs who are reluctant in their vote Johnson, Hillary or Donnie very well could go with. I hope he does drop out.
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