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Old 10-10-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Sugarmill Woods , FL
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You can't bail out the water fast enough to keep this ship from sinking! And the band played on!
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Old 10-10-2016, 09:46 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Im not a Trump supporter. I am disgusted that these 2 candidates are the choices offered by the 2 parties. I mean seriously a lousy former Senator and an even worse Secretary of State v.s a reality TV show host with questionable business practices who openly bragged about buying influence.
This debate had me laughing. Trump slammed Hillary left and right. The you'd be in jail comment was great. This debate rapidly turned into a brawl and Trump dominated Hillary in that regard. He still failed to really answer the questions. He did make points, but normally his points didn't address the actual questions. The one thing he did well was bring up the dirt on Hillary, which isn't saying much given that there is dirt a plenty.
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:08 AM
 
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People either vote out of blind party loyalty or they vote against the other guy.

Nobody votes on issues
Every Independent, Republican, or Decline to State in my family votes issues and what is best for the country (not themselves) first. The Democrats...it's usually 'me first'. Example -- All of the unionized classroom teachers in my family vote a straight Democrat ticket.

I've never once voted for what I thought was best for me, only what is best for the country. IMO, voting with the primary motivation being what is best for yourself personally is unpatriotic. Why are people looking to extract something from government? I've never understood this. JFK was a hypocrite re this issue (he saw that giving city workers the right to bargain collectively helped NYC mayor Richard Wagner get reelected, so seeking similar results JFK signed an EO giving the same right to federal workers), but I still agree with the spirit of what he said - 'ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country'.
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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More like, "Vote for me because . . . . you want the other guy to be POTUS?" That was good enough for me.

Mick
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:24 AM
 
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She was First Lady of Arkansas.
So?

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She was First Lady of the USA
Who immediately inserted herself into healthcare policy.....she wasn't elected....and her opinions were rejected.

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She was a senator from New York
She was Secretary of State
Yet every time I've heard one of her surrogates asked (on any network) to come up with an accomplishment during her tenure in either job they either stutter or give an answer that isn't an accomplishment, such as 'she traveled to blah blah blah number of countries'.

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It's time for her to be elected President.
Let's roll out the red carpet for the queen. By all means. It's her turn. Unbelievable.
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