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Old 10-12-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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There is excellent evidence the Russians did it. Independent international security analysts agree the methods used are the same the Russians have used against NATO-member countries. Digital fingerprints get left behind; IP addresses can be traced, even if a VPN is used, as bits and pieces of a crumb trail get left behind. One news crew traveled to Siberia to interview the owner of one of the servers used in the attacks; his answer was basically, don't blame me, I'm not responsible for what my customers do.

‘Russia’s Senior-Most officials’ Ordered DNC Hack - The Daily Beast
no hacker worth their weight in gold, doesnt go through dozens of IP's in order to hide their identity or make things appear things are as they arent.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:01 AM
 
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I am starting to think that maybe the Russian hackers are partnered with someone in Trump's camp to do the hacking and keep the blood off of Trump's hands. Trump goes out of his way to support Putin and Russia. No matter what the topic, Trump will take sides with Russia and Putin. I think there is a relationship to the Russian hackers via someone associated with Paul Manafort(Trump's former campaign manager who had ties with Russia insiders). ...
I agree. My guess, and only a guess, is that Manafort and/or Carter worked out a deal with the Russians that if Trump is elected, Trump will get the sanctions against Russia dropped in exchange for Russian financing of Trump hotels in Russia or elsewhere.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:04 AM
 
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I agree. My guess, and only a guess, is that Manafort and/or Carter worked out a deal with the Russians that if Trump is elected, Trump will get the sanctions against Russia dropped in exchange for Russian financing of Trump hotels in Russia or elsewhere.
So your "guess", is that Trump, will become Clinton?
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:11 AM
 
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There is excellent evidence the Russians did it. Independent international security analysts agree the methods used are the same the Russians have used against NATO-member countries. Digital fingerprints get left behind; IP addresses can be traced, even if a VPN is used, as bits and pieces of a crumb trail get left behind. One news crew traveled to Siberia to interview the owner of one of the servers used in the attacks; his answer was basically, don't blame me, I'm not responsible for what my customers do.

‘Russia’s Senior-Most officials’ Ordered DNC Hack - The Daily Beast
oh btw, just a few days ago, Clinton said during the debate, there was no hacked emails. that was DAYS ago.. she LIED TO YOUR FACE..
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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I'm glad he is going against the unsustained fetish neo cons and Hillary have to oust Assad.

Hopefully Pence will see the constant middle East meddling of the United States also needs to change.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/785301758641700864

Let that sink in a minute. Trump has overruled his Vice President's position on Syria in favor of Putin's position. When it comes to Russia, will a President Trump overrule the recommendations of his State Department? the Pentagon?

Putin wants to recreate the Soviet empire without the communism; Putin's version is fascist-corporate, which is no less evil. It is in our nation's best interest to not elect a candidate who is so eager to help Putin succeed.

You appear to be unfamiliar with Hillary Clinton's program to help the Russians build their own version of Silicon Valley as part of her 'reset'. In exchange, the Russians made major contributions to the Clinton Foundation.

The FBI and the US Army warned her about this and she did it anyways.

"The "innovation city" of Skolkovo on the outskirts of Moscow was center of the program. Its stated purpose was "identifying areas of cooperation and pursuing joint projects and actions that strengthen strategic stability, international security, economic well-being, and the development of ties between the American and Russian people."

Instead, the FBI warned several American technology companies in 2014 that Skolkovo "may be a means for the Russian government to access our nation's sensitive or classified research development facilities and dual-use technologies with military and commercial application." Indeed, it was.

Regarding Hillary and Bill Clinton, the report says: "Many of the key figures in the Skolkovo process – on both the Russian and U.S. sides – had major financial ties to the Clintons. During the Russian reset, these figures and entities provided the Clintons with tens of millions of dollars, including contributions to the Clinton Foundation, paid for speeches by Bill Clinton, or investments in small start-up companies with deep Clinton ties."


The Clinton-Kremlin Connection | The Weekly Standard

You're welcome.
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:33 AM
 
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You appear to be unfamiliar with Hillary Clinton's program to help the Russians build their own version of Silicon Valley as part of her 'reset'.
The "reset" was in 2009. Since then Russia changed and has become a far more aggressive nation (the Crimea invasion was 2014). It is a false equivalency to say that the Russia of today that Trump is friendly with is the same Russia that Clinton tried to "reset" with in 2009.
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:35 AM
 
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Poor Ronald Reagan is rolling in his grave . . . . We will be taken over the Russians via proxy . . . .

Mick
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:49 AM
 
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It's not business as usual when a presidential candidate in front of the world pretty much goes against his own VP's on a foreign issue with a country that definitely has global impact.

It's tiresome how in general when a bad word comes out against one of the candidates that many want to point a finger at a source and blame that source for misrepresentation. People need to think for themselves more. I'm not saying Trump is a blatantly dangerous potential president who could have this country blown up in a year. But sometimes just listening and reading words gives you an insight into ones character.

I was practically a full on Trump supporter in the beginning but am on the fence now. His words are concerning, as are Hillary's. At this point I consider his words a tad more concerning like this 3-day old tweet (who cares if it's not from a minute ago).
How about remembering who is now the President and who was Secretary of State --- Obama and Clinton. A difference between Trump and Pence is meaningless. Is Obama a Putin puppet ? Was Clinton when she supported Obama ignoring his line in the sand ?


'Obama Golfs While Aleppo Burns'


'The Obama/Hillary Legacy: Aleppo'
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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The "reset" was in 2009. Since then Russia changed and has become a far more aggressive nation (the Crimea invasion was 2014). It is a false equivalency to say that the Russia of today that Trump is friendly with is the same Russia that Clinton tried to "reset" with in 2009.
So you would rather play games with dates than admit that Hillary Clinton has done more to strengthen Russia than Trump ever has. Putin has been pulling the strings in Russia since 1999. And as for Russian aggression... Russia invaded Georgia in 2008... BEFORE the so called 'reset'. Your comment is total nonsense.

Why can't you simply admit the truth: Hillary willingly assisted and strengthened the Russians in exchange for cash. That's a fact.
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