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Old 10-12-2016, 09:03 AM
 
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Let that sink in a minute. Trump has overruled his Vice President's position on Syria in favor of Putin's position. When it comes to Russia, will a President Trump overrule the recommendations of his State Department? the Pentagon?

Putin wants to recreate the Soviet empire without the communism; Putin's version is fascist-corporate, which is no less evil. It is in our nation's best interest to not elect a candidate who is so eager to help Putin succeed.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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Thanks so much for that 3 day old tweet from one of Obama's former speechwriters.


I noticed that on Saturday he'll be reporting results of the Keepin' It 1600 Bedwetters Poll. I'll count on you to start a thread on the results
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:28 AM
 
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Thanks so much for that 3 day old tweet from one of Obama's former speechwriters.

I noticed that on Saturday he'll be reporting results of the Keepin' It 1600 Bedwetters Poll. I'll count on you to start a thread on the results
It's not business as usual when a presidential candidate in front of the world pretty much goes against his own VP's on a foreign issue with a country that definitely has global impact.

It's tiresome how in general when a bad word comes out against one of the candidates that many want to point a finger at a source and blame that source for misrepresentation. People need to think for themselves more. I'm not saying Trump is a blatantly dangerous potential president who could have this country blown up in a year. But sometimes just listening and reading words gives you an insight into ones character.

I was practically a full on Trump supporter in the beginning but am on the fence now. His words are concerning, as are Hillary's. At this point I consider his words a tad more concerning like this 3-day old tweet (who cares if it's not from a minute ago).
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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Thanks so much for that 3 day old tweet from one of Obama's former speechwriters.
You're welcome. Who wrote the tweet or the age of it makes the point no less valid -- what is stated stands on its own.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:31 AM
 
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Let that sink in a minute. Trump has overruled his Vice President's position on Syria in favor of Putin's position. When it comes to Russia, will a President Trump overrule the recommendations of his State Department? the Pentagon?

Putin wants to recreate the Soviet empire without the communism; Putin's version is fascist-corporate, which is no less evil. It is in our nation's best interest to not elect a candidate who is so eager to help Putin succeed.
OMG,, Trump has a different opinion.. we must stop him now.. we all must be the borg..
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:32 AM
 
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You're welcome. Who wrote the tweet or the age of it makes the point no less valid -- what is stated stands on its own.
What evidence is there that they are trying to influence the election? The hacked emails, that the Democrats are claiming was never hacked, which others have said is a LIE, because there is no evidence the Russians are even involved...

But you think LIES are relevant. which stands on its own..
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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What evidence is there that they are trying to influence the election? The hacked emails, that the Democrats are claiming was never hacked, which others have said is a LIE, because there is no evidence the Russians are even involved...

But you think LIES are relevant. which stands on its own..
They become relevant when a candidate for POTUS starts retweeting them....

His bowing at the heels of Putin, being his virtual lap-dog is in no way a good thing for us.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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I am starting to think that maybe the Russian hackers are partnered with someone in Trump's camp to do the hacking and keep the blood off of Trump's hands. Trump goes out of his way to support Putin and Russia. No matter what the topic, Trump will take sides with Russia and Putin. I think there is a relationship to the Russian hackers via someone associated with Paul Manafort(Trump's former campaign manager who had ties with Russia insiders).

Big league. I think this will eventually be uncovered, although Manafort and the Russians probably did everything verbally and in person to cover their tracks. But someone is going to slip up.

Trump keeps saying the election is rigged against him, even though the Russian hackers are clearly on Trump's side. The scary part is that Trump is getting security briefings and is likely to tell the Russian hackers(through intermediaries) what the US intelligence community knows on the subject. Trump is as dumb as a box of rocks. He might be the one that flubs something about the hacking operation when he gets mad at someone and tweets something that is supposed to be a secret.

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Old 10-12-2016, 09:43 AM
 
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They become relevant when a candidate for POTUS starts retweeting them....

His bowing at the heels of Putin, being his virtual lap-dog is in no way a good thing for us.
Its Clinton running around telling everyone that the Russians are hacking emails, despite no evidence that this is true, while in the next breath, claiming emails were never hacked...
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:54 AM
 
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What evidence is there that they are trying to influence the election? The hacked emails, that the Democrats are claiming was never hacked, which others have said is a LIE, because there is no evidence the Russians are even involved...
There is excellent evidence the Russians did it. Independent international security analysts agree the methods used are the same the Russians have used against NATO-member countries. Digital fingerprints get left behind; IP addresses can be traced, even if a VPN is used, as bits and pieces of a crumb trail get left behind. One news crew traveled to Siberia to interview the owner of one of the servers used in the attacks; his answer was basically, don't blame me, I'm not responsible for what my customers do.

‘Russia’s Senior-Most officials’ Ordered DNC Hack - The Daily Beast
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