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View Poll Results: Is trump a sexual predator?
Yes 94 46.31%
Maybe 17 8.37%
No 92 45.32%
Voters: 203. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-23-2016, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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He says he's going to eventually sue all of them. Won't happen.
Don't bet on it. Trump loves to sue people. On the one hand he might not want to risk whatever facts and disclosures come out of discovery. On the other, he probably wouldn't mind burying his accusers under a pile of legal costs.

 
Old 10-23-2016, 05:14 AM
 
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Don't bet on it. Trump loves to sue people. On the one hand he might not want to risk whatever facts and disclosures come out of discovery. On the other, he probably wouldn't mind burying his accusers under a pile of legal costs.
I have nothing to bet. LOL. But I don't think it will happen because of the risk of disclosures. Trump being Trump, I'm going to sue them all! He's probably already forgotten he said that...on national TV where anyone watching saw it.
 
Old 10-23-2016, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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I have no idea if Donald Trump is guilty of anything that is alleged, and I'm skeptical that anyone here has any actual knowledge, either. So how is it that so many people here seem to know with certainty that Trump is innocent regarding all of the accusations? At a minimum, wouldn't a position of uncertainty be required?

If you don't know X, you shouldn't assert X. If you don't know Trump is innocent, then you should assert "Trump is innocent." The corollary is also true: if you don't know Trump is guilty, you shouldn't assert that he is.
Keep in mind that anyone can make allegations against any of us at any time. Timing in this case is everything in my mind.

Give me the police reports and investigations on the, is it 13 now, and we'll investigate, but until then, I'm going with the tried and true, "Innocent until proven guilty."

Bottom line, allegations with this timing versus the dirty laundry and baggage of the Democratic candidate, easy choice, send the white trash Clintons home and put Trump in the White House!
 
Old 10-23-2016, 05:57 AM
 
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Keep in mind that anyone can make allegations against any of us at any time. Timing in this case is everything in my mind.

Give me the police reports and investigations on the, is it 13 now, and we'll investigate, but until then, I'm going with the tried and true, "Innocent until proven guilty."

Bottom line, allegations with this timing versus the dirty laundry and baggage of the Democratic candidate, easy choice, send the white trash Clintons home and put Trump in the White House!
I'm not saying you shouldn't believe him to be innocent. I'm saying you shouldn't claim that you know he is innocent.
 
Old 10-23-2016, 06:42 AM
 
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Regardless of what Trump is accused of voters should ask why this tape and sexual accusations did not surface during the republican primary.

It is obvious that the news media had this info in their arsenal and did not use it during the republican primary. Withholding this info from the republican primary indicates that perhaps Trump was played to win in order to give the election to Clinton in the end game.

Secondly, comparing the both Clinton and Trump let's assume Trump is a pig and likes to grope women. Now look at Clinton. Hillary voted for the Iraq war that killed 8,000 American military men and women, injured 40,000, more, and killed somewhere around 1 million Iraqis. Her decision cost the American taxpayer almost $2 trillion dollars. Her actions destabilized the middle east of which the world has suffered immensely. Not to mention Clinton's actions allowing four brave Americans to die in Benghazi and her remarks about the incident to congress, "let's just move on."
I don't know about you but I would rather have the guy who grabbed a few asses than the one whose poor decisions killed over a million innocent men, women, and children.
 
Old 10-23-2016, 06:51 AM
 
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Regardless of what Trump is accused of voters should ask why this tape and sexual accusations did not surface during the republican primary.

It is obvious that the news media had this info in their arsenal and did not use it during the republican primary. Withholding this info from the republican primary indicates that perhaps Trump was played to win in order to give the election to Clinton in the end game.

Trump had to open his mouth and declare at the 2nd debate that he never groped/grabbed/mashed any women. Have you considered the possibility these women came forward due to Trump's own proclamation ?

Secondly, comparing the both Clinton and Trump let's assume Trump is a pig and likes to grope women. Now look at Clinton. Hillary voted for the Iraq war that killed 8,000 American military men and women, injured 40,000, more, and killed somewhere around 1 million Iraqis. Her decision cost the American taxpayer almost $2 trillion dollars. Her actions destabilized the middle east of which the world has suffered immensely. Not to mention Clinton's actions allowing four brave Americans to die in Benghazi and her remarks about the incident to congress, "let's just move on."
I don't know about you but I would rather have the guy who grabbed a few asses than the one whose poor decisions killed over a million innocent men, women, and children.
The vote to go to war (which most congressmen voted for) was based on misleading WMD (at best) or downright fraudulent (at worst) information from the Bush administration. Of course Hillary STILL should not have voted for the war, hell Bernie and Robert Byrd did not, but that doesn't make her personally responsible for the Americans killed and injured in Iraq. If you want someone to blame for that look to Bush/Rummy/Cheney and ask yourself where is the congressional concern over that costly lie.
 
Old 10-23-2016, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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No, because none, I say again, none of the accusers have presented a single piece of evidence that their claims are true.

Our western civilization is based on the idea of innocent until proven guilty.

We cannot have a free society unless we are protected from lies, and unfounded claims.
So, then, what you are saying is that Hillary is innocent of all charges since no one has produced any evidence to the contrary. Thanks. I think i'll vote for her.
 
Old 10-23-2016, 07:04 AM
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Location: Georgia
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Because it is unusual that the tape was released 2 hours after the first of the series of Wikileaks came out
Incorrect.

The Washington Post released the Access Hollywood story and the tape by 4PM EDT; NBC followed up with their own story a few minutes later.

The first WikiLeaks dump was a couple of hours later.
 
Old 10-23-2016, 07:09 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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She's a porn star.
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She's not an actress. She's a porn star.
Yeah, and it sounds like that really turned Trump on.

Ken
 
Old 10-23-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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What kind of evidence do you want. Let the courts decide.
There is no court case and we don't need evidence. Voters are choosing a candidate and Donald Trump is subject to the court of public opinion - which doesn't need attorney statements or DNA tests or evidence. Voters are able to form their own opinion about the candidate when voting for or against a candidate . 68% of voters polled believed Trump committed sexual assault. This was before the last 2 women came forward.
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