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Old 10-16-2016, 04:17 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Despite Trumps' denials, his running mate Mike Pence - who likely understands things much more so that Trump does - says it appears that Russia is behind the recent hacking of the DNC etc.

"...U.S. intelligence officials believe Russia is behind recent email hacks targeting Democratic Party officials, including the continuing dumps by Wikileaks of documents stolen from the email account of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta.

"I think there's no question that the evidence continues to point in that direction," Pence said. "There should be severe consequences to Russia or any sovereign nation that is compromising the privacy or the security of the United States of America."..."


Pence: Russia should face 'severe consequences' if it's behind hack | Reuters

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Old 10-16-2016, 04:20 PM
 
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Well, all righty then.

Any word on whether Trump is in agreement or are he and Pence still not talking?
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:21 PM
 
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Well, all righty then.

Any word on whether Trump is in agreement or are he and Pence still not talking?
Not a word yet.
Trump/Putin 2016 - Make Russia Great Again.


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Old 10-16-2016, 04:26 PM
 
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Wow, Pence finally say something truthful.

Don't make it a habit Pence, it's not popular with your party.
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:29 PM
 
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Trump: "I still think it's a 400lbs fatso that's behind this. Please love my Putin!"
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:44 PM
 
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Give Mike Pence credit for bring an American vs a Republican when he broke ranks w/Trump by saying that...

Read website called " the interceptor" with article by Robert Mackey about why Assange going after Clinton specifically could be sign that WikiLeaks is now not just targeting lies and conspiracies by governments --any government-- but shifting more to data mining for those with agendas...
The piece that Trump used last week that supposedly tied Clinton to Benghazi was proven false...and a very juvenile effort at propaganda, too--but neither he nor Assange have really been called to account for it or explain how it happened to any rational person's satisfaction.

This criticism might seem like a narrow, technical objection — and it is certainly the case that journalists independently continue to help verify and interpret the most significant documents Assange publishes — but WikiLeaks’ lack of scrutiny of the documents it obtains, and its founder’s hostility to constructive criticism from outsiders, could be a significant problem if it is ever duped into publishing a forgery.

What if, as the cybersecurity consultant Matt Tait asked last month in relation to the DNC emails, a source — like, say, a hacker working for a Russian intelligence agency — provided WikiLeaks with a cache of documents that was tampered with in order to smear a political candidate?

In a post on the blog Lawfare, Tait explained that he had spent some time looking through the DNC files for any signs of a fake email planted among the genuine ones:

The metadata analysis I did on the leaked documents that day was almost by accident. I was actually looking for evidence of something much more frightening and which still keeps me up at night: What if the documents were mostly real, but had been surgically doctored? How effective would a carefully planted paragraph in an otherwise valid document be at derailing a campaign? How easily could Russia remove or sidestep an inconvenient DNC official with a single doctored paragraph showing “proof” of dishonest, unethical or illegal practices? And how little credibility would the sheepish official have in asserting that “all of the rest of the emails are true, but just not the one paragraph or email that makes me look bad?”

WikiLeaks is justly proud of its record to date of not being duped by forgers.

“The materials that we release are pristine,” Assange told Bill Maher on Friday. “We’re really good at this, we have a ten-year perfect record of having never got it wrong in relation to the integrity of what we’ve released.”

Still, given that WikiLeaks is now unwilling or unable to closely scrutinize all of the documents it obtains, it is not hard to imagine a scenario where something like this could occur — and that possibility itself serves to diminish the group’s credibility as a source of unvarnished truth.


Trump and Assange both share the trait of not appreciating constructive criticism from outsiders---and we have seen the result of Trump's resistance to constructive criticism.
Maybe Assange is going to have same result...
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:46 PM
 
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I'm not a fan of Pence. Speaking as a gay man partnered with another gay man, I can't support someone who's anti-gay like Pence.

That said, I respect the guy for being genuine with his values. Too bad he sold his soul to Trump...
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:50 PM
 
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Read website called " the interceptor" with article by Robert Mackey about why Assange going after Clinton specifically could be sign that WikiLeaks is now not just targeting lies and conspiracies by governments --any government-- but shifting more to data mining for those with agendas...
That's interesting. So instead of just going after conspiracies in governments, they are data mining for specific people with specific agendas.


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The piece that Trump used last week that supposedly tied Clinton to Benghazi was proven false...and a very juvenile effort at propaganda, too--but neither he nor Assange have really been called to account for it or explain how it happened to any rational person's satisfaction.
Was this the article that was printed in Sputnik or something else?
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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Doesnt change whats in the emails.
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:57 PM
 
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Doesnt change whats in the emails.
,,, which is embarrassing stuff, but that's about it. No smoking gun with Hillary's prints on it.
And time is running out for the Great Pumpkin. Voting is well underway. If Wikileaks had something critical, they should have released it a couple of weeks ago.

Tick Tock, Tick Tock.

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