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Old 10-19-2016, 09:04 PM
 
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Poll projections for Hillary are based on her getting a higher turnout than Obama did in 2008.

The primaries had a 20% reduction in turnout for Democrats.

I always say, take the polls with a grain of salt.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:06 PM
 
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I never quote polls no matter who they favor and people shouldnt let the msm discourage you from going out to vote. They are practicing voter suppression. Dont allow it.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:20 PM
 
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The level of enthusiasm for their candidate is much of what drives people to the polls. Obama had BIG enthusiasm in 08, filling arenas with excited fans, and people voted in big numbers, and he won. The same thing in even bigger scale is going on with Trump despite the war the media is waging against him. Trump supporters are bigtime enthused and will turn out Nov 8th. Hillary on the other hand would barely be able to fill a large living room with free tickets. Low enthusiasm. It doesnt bode well for her supporters actually going out to the polls.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Poll projections for Hillary are based on her getting a higher turnout than Obama did in 2008.

The primaries had a 20% reduction in turnout for Democrats.

I always say, take the polls with a grain of salt.
Primary turnout doesn't really match General election turnout. And the polls haven't shown Obama getting higher Democratic turnout than 08. 2008 had Dems + 7 nationally, we aren't seeing national polls showing Dem +9, Dem +10 or anything like that...
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:25 PM
 
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Didn't you people read the analyses on Fox News and ABC/WSJ that show that now enthusiasm for Hillary among her supporters has surpassed that of Trump supporters? Keep praying for something to hang onto. "Don't stop believing . . . ."

Mick
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:38 PM
 
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I think Trump saying that he would not state categorically he would accept the election results will make voters want to push those election results down his throat...
I think this will motivate younger voters if they care at all

It was same type of question as Anderson Cooper's in Debate II when Cooper pushed him to deny committing those acts he boasted about...he categorically denied and you saw women, credible women, who came out to rebut his answer knowing they would be raked over the coals...but his egotism drew the line in the sand...
Same way his refusal to acknowledge the democratic process will draw line in sand with the Republicans who are trying to hang with him...

Trump wants to undermine democracy -- that is why he said it
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:38 PM
 
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Its interesting to look at most online polls- they have Trump winning the debate, which is opposite of what the MSM tells you.
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:42 PM
 
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Poll projections for Hillary are based on her getting a higher turnout than Obama did in 2008.

The primaries had a 20% reduction in turnout for Democrats.

I always say, take the polls with a grain of salt.
That's not what it showing here in FL so far. Check "Voted Vote-by-Mail" in my second link. Those are the absentee ballots that have already been returned. Republicans outnumbered in absentee ballots democrats by 15%i n 2008 and by 5% in 2012(source: http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/05/81541/ )

https://countyballotfiles.elections....ts/PublicStats
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:48 PM
 
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The level of enthusiasm for their candidate is much of what drives people to the polls. Obama had BIG enthusiasm in 08, filling arenas with excited fans, and people voted in big numbers, and he won. The same thing in even bigger scale is going on with Trump despite the war the media is waging against him. Trump supporters are bigtime enthused and will turn out Nov 8th. Hillary on the other hand would barely be able to fill a large living room with free tickets. Low enthusiasm. It doesnt bode well for her supporters actually going out to the polls.
The media has already declared Hillary POTUS. I sincerely hope that's the message her supporters believe.
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Old 10-19-2016, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Poll projections for Hillary are based on her getting a higher turnout than Obama did in 2008.

The primaries had a 20% reduction in turnout for Democrats.

I always say, take the polls with a grain of salt.
WHat poll projections are you talking about ????
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