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She voted for it, go look at her Senator videos that she openly supported attacking Iraq for WMD. She was dumb enough to go along with Bush since it was the easiest and popular thing to do to be the bully.
Once she became secretary she even admitted that she intended to help the rebels topple Asad in Syria but those people double crossed us and became ISIS.
She was outsmarted by a bunch of barbarians.
Most dems voted for it because of bogus info. It doesn't make any of them dumb
If Trump were merely a "rude guy" there'd be no contest. Thinking people, however, realize calling Trump rude is akin to calling Attila the Hun "obstinate".
You've a choice between a narcissistic nincompoop who would very likely scorn any form of knowledgeable advice thinking he was the smartest person in the room and a corrupt, incompetent, avaricious power addict.
The salient point that needs repeating is; the lesser of the two evils is the one with the most awareness of what they stand to lose if they play brinksmanship with so much at stake.
Every time Trump opens that prissy little sucky mouth of his, another nugget of stupid crap spills out.
You're just offended, your sensitive skin isn't tough enough to handle talk you haven't ever heard much of, so you're lashing out because Trump is making you feel uncomfortable.
You made my point for me with your last sentence, he speaks often times in a 'rude' tone, there's nothing more to him than that, equating a 'rude tone' from an old guy with a bad filter with something more is a relationship you're going to have to do more to prove it to me.
Right, apparently there is a world side cabal that is implementing this vast conspiracy to suppress the middle class... to perfection! Because we are seeing the same thing in Asia and Europe.
Or.... is it because a world of hyper low interest rates coupled with outdated housing policy and a changing job market to high skill jobs are leaving some people behind?
One of the most curious thing from Trump is that this real estate mogul somehow did not utter one word about what he's going to do to make housing affordable. This baby is right in his wheel house and he doesn't even take a swing. You know what that tells me? He either doesn't care or he is just that detached from reality. Either way, it's not good. You're dreaming if you think you can count on this man living in a bubble to help you out.
Hillary, on the other hand, has a plan - it's retraining Americans for the millions of high skill jobs that are not being filled because of lack of qualified applicants. It will result in people making more money and lifting the economy.
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They did not crash the economy on purpose but they changed the laws to make it easier for them to make money, and when the bubbles started bursting they figured out how to steal the money directly from the people.
You want to talk about the countries in Asia and Europe struggling, ask yourself why they are struggling? What made them go into a depression at the same time that the US economy went down? If you know anything about economics you realize 2 things, the whole world's economy is based on the US dollar, and the US economy is and has long been the largest economy in the world.
The dollar losing value like it is and has been hurts countries that had their cash reserves tied up in US dollars, take a look around you and realize that despite what the government has told you they released $4 trillion into the market and suddenly things cost more but is hidden by the low cost of gas in all the economic numbers allowing the government to keep it hidden. Even with gas prices dropping by more than half at their height inflation has still been positive, think about that for a minute.
As long as consumers in the US cannot afford to buy as much junk as they were 10 years ago many international companies are going to be hurting. It is pretty obvious to me that countries and companies thought that the emerging markets in Asia and South America would save them, but only now have they figured out that there are no consumers like the old US of A.
The biggest problem is that you think the government can create low income housing, and fix your problems. I hate to be the one to tell you, but when the government has tried to force low income housing to be built, it drives up the costs of all housing to the point that low income housing is still at the costs of housing prior to the new laws, while other housing has went way up.
Trump does have a plan, but it is something that the believers in government fixing their problems will never understand. He has said for a year that he wants to cut down many of the regulations, what do you think happens then? Especially when you consider that many of those regulations are there to stop small businesses from being able to compete? Do you think that it is a fluke that only 10 companies control most of the food market? Do you think it is a fluke that only a handful of banks control the mortgage markets? How do you think only a few of the power and energy companies exist? The cable and phone companies? The constant new regulations are killing their competitors, the smaller businesses get eaten up by the larger businesses who can afford a few years of losses then when their competitors are gone they raise their prices, and who gets screwed? You want a perfect example? Take a look at what Uber is doing right now. The are allowed to operate outside of taxi regulations in most markets, they are backed by big money banks that are making a fortune, and they are slowly killing off taxi companies worldwide, with small operators who are only in one or two markets being ran out of business. Right now you can say it is good for the consumer, but what happens in 5 years when your options in most markets are Yellow Cab, Uber, and maybe Lyft (if they survive)?
Adding more regulations, adding more government intervention has never shown to improve the economy or job markets, do some research every single depression or recession except for 2 have been recovered from through the growth of small business, but over the last 25 years the federal government and states have added so many hoops and barriers to entry that those small businesses have not been able to get started or grow due to those costs.
By the way the 2 that the country did not recover from due to small business growth, were the great depression which was stopped by WWII and this one now which according to most analysts we have never recovered from.
Our problem as a country is that the money and power have been taken from us and handed to the government and large corporations, Hillary is as much a part of that as anybody, and giving the government more power is not going to fix that issue. Asking the government to do all the regulations in the end will continue to destroy us as a country. People talk about the 1950s as being this great time in this country, but JFK was elected talking about what people can do for their country, now it is the opposite, people want to elect someone based on what they say they will do for you and it is destroying this country.
They did not crash the economy on purpose but they changed the laws to make it easier for them to make money, and when the bubbles started bursting they figured out how to steal the money directly from the people.
You want to talk about the countries in Asia and Europe struggling, ask yourself why they are struggling? What made them go into a depression at the same time that the US economy went down? If you know anything about economics you realize 2 things, the whole world's economy is based on the US dollar, and the US economy is and has long been the largest economy in the world.
The dollar losing value like it is and has been hurts countries that had their cash reserves tied up in US dollars, take a look around you and realize that despite what the government has told you they released $4 trillion into the market and suddenly things cost more but is hidden by the low cost of gas in all the economic numbers allowing the government to keep it hidden. Even with gas prices dropping by more than half at their height inflation has still been positive, think about that for a minute.
As long as consumers in the US cannot afford to buy as much junk as they were 10 years ago many international companies are going to be hurting. It is pretty obvious to me that countries and companies thought that the emerging markets in Asia and South America would save them, but only now have they figured out that there are no consumers like the old US of A.
I didn't say Asia is struggling, they are actually doing quite well. But parts of Asia's middle class is getting squeezed despite the boom. Similar to what we're experiencing here - which a symptom that what's happening here is not something that is nefariously orchestrated by the power here but a global issue.
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The biggest problem is that you think the government can create low income housing, and fix your problems. I hate to be the one to tell you, but when the government has tried to force low income housing to be built, it drives up the costs of all housing to the point that low income housing is still at the costs of housing prior to the new laws, while other housing has went way up.
Where did I say government can create low income housing??? Housing affordability and low income housing are two different things!!!
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Trump does have a plan, but it is something that the believers in government fixing their problems will never understand. He has said for a year that he wants to cut down many of the regulations, what do you think happens then? Especially when you consider that many of those regulations are there to stop small businesses from being able to compete? Do you think that it is a fluke that only 10 companies control most of the food market? Do you think it is a fluke that only a handful of banks control the mortgage markets? How do you think only a few of the power and energy companies exist? The cable and phone companies? The constant new regulations are killing their competitors, the smaller businesses get eaten up by the larger businesses who can afford a few years of losses then when their competitors are gone they raise their prices, and who gets screwed? You want a perfect example? Take a look at what Uber is doing right now. The are allowed to operate outside of taxi regulations in most markets, they are backed by big money banks that are making a fortune, and they are slowly killing off taxi companies worldwide, with small operators who are only in one or two markets being ran out of business. Right now you can say it is good for the consumer, but what happens in 5 years when your options in most markets are Yellow Cab, Uber, and maybe Lyft (if they survive)?
It's interesting that you mentioned the cab industry, which for a longgggg time was protected by the government in the form of medallions. It was the big guys, the ones who could afford to pay hundreds of thousands for one medallion, who were most hurt by the rise of Uber/Lyft. The little guys had to rent the medallions in order to work or they had to scrape together live savings to purchase one.
Though owner drivers can make considerably more than part-time shifters, kingpins like Tutunjian – after making fortunes, anyway – won't be working as cabbies; while $700,000 may be chump change for the city's wealthiest medallion hoarders, to owner drivers, it's their "entire livelihood," Blythe-Shaw said.
This owner driver population – many of which are immigrants, speaking English as a second language, said Blythe-Shaw – have either taken out loans or put down a portion of their life savings in order to finance medallion purchases.
As long as Boston's taxi monopoly remains in effect, owner drivers stand to see a return on their investment, and medallion owners can continue to collect high rental fees from shifters.
The cab industry is actually the little guys fighting back - with Uber/Lyft, there will be no more paying high fees to rent a medallion or taking out exorbitant loans to finance it.
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Originally Posted by jwiley
Adding more regulations, adding more government intervention has never shown to improve the economy or job markets, do some research every single depression or recession except for 2 have been recovered from through the growth of small business, but over the last 25 years the federal government and states have added so many hoops and barriers to entry that those small businesses have not been able to get started or grow due to those costs.
Didn't you implied Bill Clinton was at fault for repealing the Glass Steagall Act in your previous post? Now, you're saying government regulation doesn't help the economy? Geez, make up your mind!
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Originally Posted by jwiley
By the way the 2 that the country did not recover from due to small business growth, were the great depression which was stopped by WWII and this one now which according to most analysts we have never recovered from.
Our problem as a country is that the money and power have been taken from us and handed to the government and large corporations, Hillary is as much a part of that as anybody, and giving the government more power is not going to fix that issue. Asking the government to do all the regulations in the end will continue to destroy us as a country. People talk about the 1950s as being this great time in this country, but JFK was elected talking about what people can do for their country, now it is the opposite, people want to elect someone based on what they say they will do for you and it is destroying this country.
Total rubbish! You really think people in the 60s are that different from people today?
Go and look back, they were complaining about almost the same stuff we are today.
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