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The poster didn't say 50's generation, s/he said people in their 50s or above. That would be me. Most people my age certainly did graduate from high school, but many of us did not go to college yet were able to be promoted into higher positions and had decent salaries. I fit into that category.
I know the poster didn't say 50's generation. I am also in my 50 and you're right most people my age (except for people who got pregnant and thought they were going to live happily ever after) did graduate from HS. You are right that many did not go to college although I did go to college and was able to move into higher positions because I did what I needed to do internally to qualify and challenged the state boards.
The writing was on the wall for needing higher education even back then. But many people didn't go to college because they held the beliefs of the older generation (unions and pensions) and that didn't pan out well for them. They failed to move with the times. Some were lucky like you, most weren't.
I'm surrounded by these types who loved Bill Clinton, their kids refused to see the writing on the wall. I wanted more than the script that they lived. I live in a blue state.
I know the poster didn't say 50's generation. I am also in my 50 and you're right most people my age (except for people who got pregnant and thought they were going to live happily ever after) did graduate from HS. You are right that many did not go to college although I did go to college and was able to move into higher positions because I did what I needed to do internally to qualify and challenged the state boards.
The writing was on the wall for needing higher education even back then. But many people didn't go to college because they held the beliefs of the older generation (unions and pensions) and that didn't pan out well for them. They failed to move with the times. Some were lucky like you, most weren't.
I'm surrounded by these types who loved Bill Clinton, their kids refused to see the writing on the wall. I wanted more than the script that they lived. I live in a blue state.
Well, lol, it wasn't being "lucky" that enabled me to move ahead in my career, but I do know what you mean by those types of people.
The poster didn't say 50's generation, s/he said people in their 50s or above. That would be me. Most people my age certainly did graduate from high school, but many of us did not go to college yet were able to be promoted into higher positions and had decent salaries. I fit into that category.
You did go on to further your education beyond high school though, no?
You did go on to further your education beyond high school though, no?
I went to a year-long secretarial school. From there, I got a job in an engineering office for a public transportation agency. After 6 years, I had moved from the clerical ranks into the lower-level management. If you already worked there, it was possible to move up by taking certain internal written and oral management exams. I also attempted to go to college at night for a while in my 20s, but I didn't finish.
There were many others who started as clerical or mailroom workers who ended up in exec management positions. That is a thing of the past. You need a degree just to get in the door for an admin asst position these days--true secretaries no longer exist--and the mailroom positions are held by differently-abled persons now.
By the time I retired I was a division manager in a specialized area in my department. Very few people at that point knew I was uneducated, and I kept it quiet because I made more money than some of them who had advanced degrees. The guy who worked for me and now has my job is a J.D. He knew. Called me "the closet scholar".
ETA: And hey, since this has veered off-topic--in that position, two years ago I worked on a project during which I had to meet with potential developers, including the Trump Organization. I met with Ivanka twice and had several phone conversations with her, as well. Donald was on the last phone call. He told me everyone I dealt with at Trump thought I was terrific. Still not voting for him, though. I don't dislike him. I just don't think he's presidential material.
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My family and i know Tim Kaine and his family very well but we favor Donald Trump because we work in law enforcement.
Plus us republicans believe in democracy and don't go around protesting and blowing up democratic offices
I went to a year-long secretarial school. From there, I got a job in an engineering office for a public transportation agency. After 6 years, I had moved from the clerical ranks into the lower-level management. If you already worked there, it was possible to move up by taking certain internal written and oral management exams. I also attempted to go to college at night for a while in my 20s, but I didn't finish.
There were many others who started as clerical or mailroom workers who ended up in exec management positions. That is a thing of the past. You need a degree just to get in the door for an admin asst position these days--true secretaries no longer exist--and the mailroom positions are held by differently-abled persons now.
By the time I retired I was a division manager in a specialized area in my department. Very few people at that point knew I was uneducated, and I kept it quiet because I made more money than some of them who had advanced degrees. The guy who worked for me and now has my job is a J.D. He knew. Called me "the closet scholar".
ETA: And hey, since this has veered off-topic--in that position, two years ago I worked on a project during which I had to meet with potential developers, including the Trump Organization. I met with Ivanka twice and had several phone conversations with her, as well. Donald was on the last phone call. He told me everyone I dealt with at Trump thought I was terrific. Still not voting for him, though. I don't dislike him. I just don't think he's presidential material.
Sounds like a good resume to me! Having always worked in nursing, everyone had to have at least an Associate's degree and a license, so it's a little bit different. DH worked in engineering; even some of the "engineers" didn't have degrees, though most had some college. He says it's different now for new hires.
Trump may be a good businessman, but he doesn't know how government works. He can't just go up to a member of Congress and say "You're fired"!
Sounds like a good resume to me! Having always worked in nursing, everyone had to have at least an Associate's degree and a license, so it's a little bit different. DH worked in engineering; even some of the "engineers" didn't have degrees, though most had some college. He says it's different now for new hires.
Trump may be a good businessman, but he doesn't know how government works. He can't just go up to a member of Congress and say "You're fired"!
As the daughter of a patient who had surgery and was in a major hospital for a few days recently, do you think college grad RNs are better or worse than the non-college grad RNs? I observed a lot during my mother's stay in the hospital and would appreciate your opinion.
Someone may be called a nurse or call themselves a nurse: LPN, RN, patient caregiver, patient care coordinator, nursing assistant, etc. "Nurse" isn't the legal title for half of those people who appropriated the word. At least that was my brief experience in that five days. As a neophyte, I noticed a significant difference in RN care.
On the thread topic, career politicians like Hillary, Bill or their spoiled 36 year old child Chelsea never worked a job in the real world. How can they possibly know how things work in business or for average Americans?
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As the daughter of a patient who had surgery and was in a major hospital for a few days recently, do you think college grad RNs are better or worse than the non-college grad RNs? I observed a lot during my mother's stay in the hospital and would appreciate your opinion.
Someone may be called a nurse or call themselves a nurse: LPN, RN, patient caregiver, patient care coordinator, nursing assistant, etc. "Nurse" isn't the legal title for half of those people who appropriated the word. At least that was my brief experience in that five days. As a neophyte, I noticed a significant difference in RN care.
On the thread topic, career politicians like Hillary, Bill or their spoiled 36 year old child Chelsea never worked a job in the real world. How can they possibly know how things work in business or for average Americans?
Now that I'm retired and can speak my mind more freely on the subject of nursing, I think that it is preferable for all RNs to have a bachelor's degree, no matter that some who don't have one make fun of BSNs for having taken humanities courses, etc.
The city manager in my little burg once said that the problem with the city council was that most didn't have an understanding of how government works, coming from the business world as they did; and that the one council member who was a school principal was the only member who did get it. They really are two different worlds. Trump has never even been elected dog-catcher and he thinks he has the experience and qualifications to be president! Nor has he ever worked in government. Bill nor Chelsea are running for office, so we don't have to worry about their qualifications.
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