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Old 10-27-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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You just used "marriage" as your "proof of consent"
Yes, it's actually a written legal consent.

Of course, a husband can still rape a wife or his life partner.
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Old 10-27-2016, 02:47 PM
 
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Yes, it's actually a written legal consent.

Of course, a husband can still rape a wife or his life partner.
So if a husband can rape his wife, how is marriage alone used as evidence in a defense of a man being accused of assault?
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Old 10-27-2016, 02:50 PM
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Man Found Guilty of Raping His Wife - NYTimes.com

Fairfield man sentenced for raping wife - Central Maine

Man Found Guilty Of Raping His Wi

Marriage is not consent for sexual interaction. The same three tenets that I outlined above apply.

(Refusal to grant consent is typically valid grounds for divorce, of course. But not grounds for committing sexual assault.)
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Old 10-27-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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Great post. We'll need to keep repeating it.

Broaddrick stated she wasn't assaulted. Then she says she was. She said she wasn't intimidated. Then she says she was. She was such an unreliable historian, that Starr wouldn't even use her as a witness.

From the sounds of things, she went to a motel room with Bill. She told her husband nothing happened. She told her married lover, that she was raped.

Lewinsky made it clear from the beginning that she was the one flipping her thong underwear, there was no assault involved.

Just thought I'd throw that in.


Incorrect. Monica was NOT in any position to give consent in this case.

Let's see what Mr. bUU posted for us:

https://www.rainn.org/articles/legal-role-consent

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Capacity to consent
A person’s capacity, or ability, to legally consent to sexual activity can be based on a number of factors, which often vary from state to state. In a criminal investigation, a state may use these factors to determine if a person who engaged in sexual activity had the capacity to consent. If not, the state may be able to charge the perpetrator with a crime. Examples of some factors that may contribute to someone’s capacity to consent include:

Relationship of victim/perpetrator: Was the alleged perpetrator in a position of authority, such as such as a teacher or correctional office?
Duh, Clinton was the president of United States, the most powerful position of authority in the country!

This alone proves that Clinton sexually assaulted Monica, and Hillary is just as guilty for supporting such a sexual predator.
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Old 10-27-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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So if a husband can rape his wife, how is marriage alone used as evidence in a defense of a man being accused of assault?
? Wasn't that what I said? I said of course the husband can still rape the wife or his life partner.

If two employees got married, was there not enough to say there's no sexual assault during their office romance?
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Old 10-27-2016, 02:58 PM
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Incorrect. Monica was NOT in any position to give consent in this case.

Let's see what Mr. bUU posted for us:

https://www.rainn.org/articles/legal-role-consent
You are correct. Clinton was in a position of power over Lewinsky and therefore she could not give consent.

That's one reason why I won't vote for Bill Clinton for POTUS.

Good thing he isn't on the ballot.

And now that you've finally come to understand the laws concerning sexual assault, as evidenced by your applying them to the Monica Lewinsky affair, do you have the integrity to admit you were wrong about Trump?
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Old 10-27-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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Man Found Guilty of Raping His Wife - NYTimes.com

Fairfield man sentenced for raping wife - Central Maine

Man Found Guilty Of Raping His Wi

Marriage is not consent for sexual interaction. The same three tenets that I outlined above apply.

(Refusal to grant consent is typically valid grounds for divorce, of course. But not grounds for committing sexual assault.)
Thank you for proving me right again. You have been enormously helpful today.
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Old 10-27-2016, 03:01 PM
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Thank you for proving me right again. You have been enormously helpful today.
I'll ask you again: Now that you've finally come to understand the laws concerning sexual assault, as evidenced by your applying them to the Monica Lewinsky affair, do you have the integrity to admit you were wrong about Trump?
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Old 10-27-2016, 03:02 PM
 
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You are correct. Clinton was in a position of power over Lewinsky and therefore she could not give consent.

That's one reason why I won't vote for Bill Clinton for POTUS.

Good thing he isn't on the ballot.

And now that you've finally come to understand the laws concerning sexual assault, as evidenced by your applying them to the Monica Lewinsky affair, do you have the integrity to admit you were wrong about Trump?
Once again, Hillary's support for Bill shows that she's just as guilty. Thank you for supporting both sexual predators.

Back to Trump, was he in a position of authority?
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Old 10-27-2016, 03:02 PM
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Once again, Hillary's support for Bill shows that she's just as guilty.
No it doesn't. There is nothing on that page I provided the link to earlier that says a wife must condemn her husband for such transgressions.

I will ask you again: Do you have the integrity to admit you were wrong about Trump? Will you admit that what he's accused of constitutes sexual assault, and that there is enough evidence, at least with regard to the accusations from the People magazine writer (i.e., six outcry witnesses), to convict Trump of the crime, if the statute of limitations has not expired.
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