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Old 10-29-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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I have voted for a Democrat every Presidential election since I turned 18. I have a LOT of problems with Hillary. I met her in 2008 and she was just plain cold, nasty, unlikeable. But I'm mature enough to look beyond that. A native Michigander, I had to leave years ago due to the terrible economy. Much of that was a direct result of her husband signing NAFTA. While I understand she is not her husband, she got to where she is today because of him... let's not be fools. And chances are that their viewpoints are nearly identical. She says she is against the TPP but that isn't enough for me.

She claims she is for the working and middle class but swindled millions of dollars in speaking fees and donations for the Clinton Foundation to enrich herself. Her and Bill already were wealthy and they did not need that extra money. Also, why could they not have contributed more to causes WITHIN the country? We have enough problems here at home, and if you are a REAL American you focus on that FIRST!

She also is a terrible speaker obviously. Overcomplicates everything, can't speak like one of the 'commoners'. She truly thinks she is above people and is incredibly naive when it comes to what's going on on Main Street. She lived in the bubble too long. At least Obama makes a genuine effort to get out into reality when time permits.

In short, I will still be voting for her, but I'm totally pissed. The ONLY reason I'm doing it is because she will appoint a liberal justice to replace Scalia. But I'm truly mad as hell, and just wondering what all of your thoughts are.
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:12 AM
 
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Hillary is corrupt to the core. She should be in prison.
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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My thoughts are this. If you're totally pissed, if the last 8 years have left you worse off than ever, and we're already seeing the impact of Obamacare with rates going up next year, with hundreds of thousands of *refugees* that will be coming here under her as President, and you still vote for her? You deserve what you get.

You're so worried and certain that a conservative on the SC will strip you of your rights, that you'll hand over all of the above, based on conjecture.

With all due respect, you make ME pissed.
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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OP you said it all about Hillary but you are still going to vote for her? I never met her and don't care to but from what I have heard and read the impression you got from her is spot on. The flip side is Trump and reports have it that he is a warm positive character.


You state all these terrible things that Hillary has done but still support her to appoint a Supreme Court Justice? How could that make it any better.


I think what we all need to do is look at the mess of scandals and constant lies that Hillary will give us and vote not for her but cast your vote for America.

Trump has said a lot of stupid things in his campaign but I believe that in his heart he is Pro America. The only thing that Hillary is for is lining her pockets at the expense of America while she lies to us about how great she is.


Trump is scary, he is a gamble but with Hillary we know exactly what we will get and it is not pretty for America.
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:28 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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There's still standing room on the Trump Train. You still have a chance to get on board....
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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But I'm truly mad as hell, and just wondering what all of your thoughts are.
My thoughts boil down to, "Man, I sure hope Hillary doesn't win the election."
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:34 AM
 
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Hillary is corrupt to the core. She should be in prison.
What would she be convicted of? You do know that there has to be a crime committed before one is sentenced to a prison term...right? Not liking a person is not enough to incarcerate them.
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I have voted for a Democrat every Presidential election since I turned 18. I have a LOT of problems with Hillary. I met her in 2008 and she was just plain cold, nasty, unlikeable. But I'm mature enough to look beyond that. A native Michigander, I had to leave years ago due to the terrible economy. Much of that was a direct result of her husband signing NAFTA. While I understand she is not her husband, she got to where she is today because of him... let's not be fools. And chances are that their viewpoints are nearly identical. She says she is against the TPP but that isn't enough for me.

She claims she is for the working and middle class but swindled millions of dollars in speaking fees and donations for the Clinton Foundation to enrich herself. Her and Bill already were wealthy and they did not need that extra money. Also, why could they not have contributed more to causes WITHIN the country? We have enough problems here at home, and if you are a REAL American you focus on that FIRST!

She also is a terrible speaker obviously. Overcomplicates everything, can't speak like one of the 'commoners'. She truly thinks she is above people and is incredibly naive when it comes to what's going on on Main Street. She lived in the bubble too long. At least Obama makes a genuine effort to get out into reality when time permits.

In short, I will still be voting for her, but I'm totally pissed. The ONLY reason I'm doing it is because she will appoint a liberal justice to replace Scalia. But I'm truly mad as hell, and just wondering what all of your thoughts are.
well, I don't understand people like you. I really don't.

There are third party candidates. There is a third party candidate like Johnson.

I can understand the nevertrump crowds, They hate trump more than they hate Clinton, so yeah, I can understand the mentality of holding their noses and vote Hillary, but I don't get people like you.

Why don't you just vote the third party? Appointing a liberal justice is more important than TPP, American jobs to you?

I start to think bold is just fake outrage, you don't really care about the bold. :P
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:35 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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What would she be convicted of? You do know that there has to be a crime committed before one is sentenced to a prison term...right? Not liking a person is not enough to incarcerate them.
Treason, to start with, and perjury. She's probably guilty of obstruction of justice in the past when she covered up Bill's rapes and sexual assaults. Also a lot of graft regarding the Clinton Foundation and its finances.
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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What a shock a life long democrat is voting for Hillary in spite of all her lies and corruption. In other news rain is wet and the sun rises in the east. Why should she care about people like you? She clearly has your support no matter what she does.
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