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Old 11-04-2016, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There are no high-paying manufacturing jobs coming back in a time machine either. If people don't become educated and/or retrained, they are doomed.
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:33 PM
 
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Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 161,000 in October!!!
The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for August was revised up from +167,000 to +176,000, and the change for September was revised up from +156,000 to +191,000. With these revisions, employment gains in August and September combined were 44,000 more than previously reported. Over the past 3 months, job gains have averaged 176,000 per month.
translation:

161,000 people fell off unemployment benefits = employment rose by 161,000.

44,000 part-time seasonal workers at shopping malls
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:35 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 161,000 in October!!!
The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for August was revised up from +167,000 to +176,000, and the change for September was revised up from +156,000 to +191,000. With these revisions, employment gains in August and September combined were 44,000 more than previously reported. Over the past 3 months, job gains have averaged 176,000 per month.
That's nice but the population will roughly grow about 3 million this year.

Even better, the corporate controlled Democrats and Republican politicians want to legalize 12 million illegal aliens which will allow them to enter the work force and directly compete with low income Americans for jobs.

Its insanity like that forces many people to support Donald Trump.
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:37 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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The reality is, free trade has benefited American workers by driving up wages in jobs related to exports.
That's kind of like saying crime is good because it increases jobs in law enforcement, court systems and prisons.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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What....because you said so, OP? That's your proof? Gary Johnson is a nut bag, no thank you.
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Old 11-04-2016, 05:53 PM
 
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I keep hearing that Donald Trump is doing well in certain parts of the country because of free trade and he's doing well with some Republicans because of immigration.

The reality is, free trade has benefited American workers by driving up wages in jobs related to exports. 42 million American jobs are supported by free trade. Furthermore, studies have shown that anywhere from 80,000-500,000 manufacturing jobs ARE available in the United States, but go unfilled - proving we have a skills gap. The cost of televisions and computers have fallen more than 70% since 2000 thanks to free trade. These aren't just talking points, they are real people who have employment and higher wages thanks to free trade.

Despite Donald Trump's rheoric on immigration, illegal border crossings are down because President George W. Bush doubled border-patrol agents. Rounding up 12 million people would violate the 4th amendment rights of legal U.S. citizens while putting us deeper into debt. The fact is, those who legally come to our country start businesses and help bring innovation to a variety of fields, including the pharmaceutical industry and the sciences.

If you are voting for Trump because of trade, please know that he's lying to you. Free trade benefits American workers. Also, please know that Donald Trump buys cheap Chinese steel.

If you are voting for Trump because of immigration, it's worth noting that he's hired illegal immigrants and his plans will do nothing but drive up debt and violate the constitution. Furthermore, let me be blunt: many of those who are voting for Trump because of immigration aren't doing so because they actually know any immigrants, it's because they fear the unknown. Be rational.

Hopefully, you join me in supporting Gary Johnson and Bill Weld who aren't perfect, but better than the two corrupt progressives the GOP and Democrats have nominated.



You have no idea what you are talking about on any of your claims.
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Old 11-04-2016, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 161,000 in October!!!
The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for August was revised up from +167,000 to +176,000, and the change for September was revised up from +156,000 to +191,000. With these revisions, employment gains in August and September combined were 44,000 more than previously reported. Over the past 3 months, job gains have averaged 176,000 per month.
In the meantime, which you are probably ignorant of, first-time unemployment applications rose on average by 257000 a week in October. That is over a million. So Obama gives us 161,000 new jobs and takes away a million jobs in one month. Explain that.
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:29 PM
 
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Most Americans disagree with you.
65% of Americans think globalization is good: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...s-their-lives/

65% of Americans support a pathway to citizenship for those here illegally: http://www.gallup.com/poll/184577/fa...mmigrants.aspx

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Donald Trump has proposed the worst economic policy in American history
Agreed. Protectionism, stimulus, more debt, and a tax scheme that creates more credits without simplifying the code would be disastrous.

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your post sounds like it was sponsored by the Koch Brothers.

who sponsor Gary Johnson, whose running mate endorsed Hillary Clinton.
Unlike Donald Trump, the Koch brothers have worked for everything they have. Unlike Donald Trump, the Koch brothers support free markets and limited government.

As for Bill Weld, he said he preferred Clinton over Trump because Trump is dangerous. He didn't endorse her and he's right, Trump is dangerous.

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What this election is about: When and Why Nationalism Beats Globalism - The American Interest and Trump vs. Hillary Is Nationalism vs. Globalism, 2016 | The National Interest

Frankly, at this point, I would think that many are supporting Trump because of the horror show the Democratic Party has been bombarding us with! See that is the "thing", if 50% of the negatives people preach on about Trump were true, and they aren't, Trump is still at least 200% better than Clinton - remember this is a race between two people. Lesser of the evils? For some but at least no one has died because of Trump's incompetency.
There is no question but that Barack Obama has been a bad President. Our economy is stagnant, people are struggling, and his foreign policy has placed distance between us and our allies while he's sought to appease Iran & Cuba.

The answer to that is not Donald Trump, it's a conservative who is smart, not a low-life, and a mentally stable individual. We Republicans have failed the nation this year.

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Sorry NJforlife, maybe you could have posted something like this 10 years ago, but these days a lot of us are not buying the BS anymore.
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There are no high-paying manufacturing jobs coming back in a time machine either. If people don't become educated and/or retrained, they are doomed.
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What....because you said so, OP? That's your proof? Gary Johnson is a nut bag, no thank you.

Let's look at the facts:


Trade:
The Benefits of Free Trade: A Guide For Policymakers

Manufacturing Jobs go Unfilled:
As Skill Requirements Increase, More Manufacturing Jobs Go Unfilled - WSJ

Immigration:
What Trump gets wrong on immigrants and crime - CNN.com
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:31 PM
 
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your post sounds like it was sponsored by the Koch Brothers.

who sponsor Gary Johnson, whose running mate endorsed Hillary Clinton.
But but but, I think the Libertarians were the real "good guys"???
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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But but but, I think the Libertarians were the real "good guys"???
Ronald Reagan once said that libertarianism is at the heart of conservatism.

As a conservative with some libertarian views myself, I couldn't agree more.

Donald Trump is a liberal and an authoritarian.
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