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Old 11-05-2016, 01:56 PM
 
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No, none of the classified emails had defense information. For pete's sake.
Is it hard to breathe with your head buried in the sand? hillary is a career criminal and justice is finally about to be done.
That is great news for all American's, even the blind ones who continue to support her.
We are saving you from yourself. You are very welcome.....
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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I never will. I'm quite confident in Hillary. I've been diving into her for years and years now. People don't know how transparent she actually is. Her entire life has been probed ad nauseum for decades.
Just shaking my head, there is really nothing to say, you are absolutely and completely hopeless. I really feel sorry for you..
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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She violated the law (18 U.S. Code 793(F)), she was however not prosecuted because of collusion between the AG/FBI and the Clintons.
Generally, the statute applies to intentional, with will to do harm - gathering, transmitting, or losing defense information.

The words intent, willfully, conspire - appear throughout.

Note: 18 U.S. Code 793(F) clearly states " with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States:" and goes on to discuss essentially, ESPIONAGE - and the forfeiture/penalty is any property acquired as a result of that ESPIONAGE and will to do harm/injury to the United States:
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18 U.S. Code 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation, goes upon, enters, flies over, or otherwise obtains information concerning any vessel, aircraft, work of defense, navy yard, naval station, submarine base, fueling station, fort, battery, torpedo station, dockyard, canal, railroad, arsenal, camp, factory, mine, telegraph, telephone, wireless, or signal station, building, office, research laboratory or station or other place connected with the national defense owned or constructed, or in progress of construction by the United States or under the control of the United States, or of any of its officers, departments, or agencies, or within the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States, or any place in which any vessel, aircraft, arms, munitions, or other materials or instruments for use in time of war are being made, prepared, repaired, stored, or are the subject of research or development, under any contract or agreement with the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or with any person on behalf of the United States, or otherwise on behalf of the United States, or any prohibited place so designated by the President by proclamation in time of war or in case of national emergency in which anything for the use of the Army, Navy, or Air Force is being prepared or constructed or stored, information as to which prohibited place the President has determined would be prejudicial to the national defense; or

(b)Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe, copies, takes, makes, or obtains, or attempts to copy, take, make, or obtain, any sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, document, writing, or note of anything connected with the national defense; or

(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or

(d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.
(h) (1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law, any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from any foreign government, or any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, as the result of such violation. For the purposes of this subsection, the term “State” includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.
(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection.
(3) The provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)–(p)) shall apply to— (A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;
(B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and
(C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property, if not inconsistent with this subsection.

(4) Notwithstanding section 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund in the Treasury all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
Further, you might want to listen to this:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?417359...ils&start=1908

In particular, :31 - re those who have been court-martialed where intent did not matter. Fwiw, Petraeus was lucky he wasn't court-martialed because he knowingly gave classified material to his mistress.

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Old 11-05-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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The absolute only thing that is keeping her from being arrested is this election campaign. If she loses, all her friends will turn on her and distance themselves. Her enemies will jump for joy and go to work.

They will make an example out of her. I don't know if she will ever see the inside of a jail cell, if Obama doesn't pardon her she will use her health as a crutch and live out her days under house arrest.

But she has to win to avoid prosecution.
Dictators make sure that their opponents are jailed.
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:46 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Keep dreaming, Clinton has been investigated and found innocent.
Hmmm.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Make no mistake, if Hillary loses she WILL be prosecuted.
These RWNJ fantasies...

So amusing.

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Old 11-05-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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Is it hard to breathe with your head buried in the sand? hillary is a career criminal and justice is finally about to be done.
That is great news for all American's, even the blind ones who continue to support her.
We are saving you from yourself. You are very welcome.....
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Just shaking my head, there is really nothing to say, you are absolutely and completely hopeless. I really feel sorry for you..
Are you kidding? If Trump wins the first thing that will happen is that my 401k will plummet. I doubt he will be able to get anything passed in the house/senate in the way of his ridiculous economic plans, but he will assign SOS, DOD positions and that is scary. If he gets in bed with Putan, and subsequently Assad, who knows what will happen. I'm afraid for my children.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:19 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Kristallnacht when Herr Drumpf becomes Der Fhurer. Whoops. The President.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:26 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Kristallnacht when Herr Drumpf becomes Der Fhurer. Whoops. The President.
It's against the TOS on City-Data forums to speak Nazi, and personally offensive to me.
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Old 11-05-2016, 04:33 PM
 
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You're right. If Trump wins Hillary will probably go to jail. That's what Fascist leaders do -- jail their political opponents.




That is not what it would be if it came to pass and you well know it.


She is corrupt, conniving , and dishonest and all that support her well know that too.
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